Originally posted by carver9
So basically when it was screamed out in the comic that they threw "adamantium" netting at hulk, what they were really trying to say is "they threw secondary Adamantium at Hulk"? Does that make sense to you?Was it ever referenced that Wolverine has Primary Adamantium in him and if so can you please provide a scan? If your stature was/is true, the only true source that can be used as any evidence of true adamantium is during the time Wolverine first received his.
We can't pick and choose "unless we have some type of evidence". If you have something stating or showing that it was secondary adamantium, please provide this evidence but until then, I am going by what was said on panel and Hulk ripped Adamantium.
You seem to be of the impression that "Adamantium" by default inherently means that the metal is Primary or "True" Adamantium... but that isn't the case. Secondary Adamantium is - by far - the most common type of Adamamtium. If I said I ate a hamburger, the smart money is on it being a standard beef patty because that is by and far the most common type of burger, if it was a veggie burger or a turkey burger, I would have use the proper clarifier. Secondary Adamantium is the most common type of Adamantium, "Primary" is the clarifier that something is out of the ordinary. Unless something is stated as being Primary Adamantium the smart money is on it being Secondary Adamantium... especially if it is getting broken...
... also the fact that it was a malleable net should have tipped you off. A primary Adamantium net... would have been a grate.
Wolverine's bones have been directly stated as being bonded with primary Adamantium. I don't have any scans of it for the same reasons I don't have scans where Wolverine is stated as being a man or that his hair is black, it was never something in dispute... until now apparently. If you go back and look it shouldn't be too hard to find, just incredibly time consuming,
Originally posted by Mindset
Lies upon lies.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The thing here is a 1000 full on hits from Spider-man can't even compare to one hit from the Hulk. If Wolverine's healing factor can deal with that then what makes you think Spider-man do anything besides disorient Wolverine by keeping him of balance? Wolverine get take Spider-man's punches all day with out serious damage, and while Spider-man does have a speed avantage it isn't nearly enough of an advantage to fall back on. Spider-man will win this fight more times then he loses though for one reason and one reason; no matter how angry Wolverine is he can't break Spidy's webs with brute strength and if he is webbed up there is little more Wolverine can do then act as a punching bag.
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Originally posted by Mindset
Yup, Kung Fu + SS = Wolverine in raped.I agree completely. Let's make meth.
Wolverine got around Herc's spider-sense and Herc's skills >>>>> Kung Fu Spider-man. Spider-man's kung fu is weak man, even Iron Fist was able to hit him. It didn't do anything of course because the Iron Fist is like a being hit with a pillow, but still! 😎
Lets do it.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You seem to be of the impression that "Adamantium" by default inherently means that the metal is Primary or "True" Adamantium... but that isn't the case. Secondary Adamantium is - by far - the most common type of Adamamtium. If I said I ate a hamburger, the smart money is on it being a standard beef patty because that is by and far the most common type of burger, if it was a veggie burger or a turkey burger, I would have use the proper clarifier. Secondary Adamantium is the most common type of Adamantium, "Primary" is the clarifier that something is out of the ordinary. Unless something is stated as being Primary Adamantium the smart money is on it being Secondary Adamantium... especially if it is getting broken...... also the fact that it was a malleable net should have tipped you off. A primary Adamantium net... would have been a grate.
Wolverine's bones have been directly stated as being bonded with primary Adamantium. I don't have any scans of it for the same reasons I don't have scans where Wolverine is stated as being a man or that his hair is black, it was never something in dispute... until now apparently. If you go back and look it shouldn't be too hard to find, just incredibly time consuming,
As I stated before, you can't mark something off as secondary adamantium just off of a hunch. Pure adamantium can and has been made and there is no reason for Dracula to throw anything secondary "at the Hulk".
In order for your argument to hold any type of weight, you would need hard core proof just like I want that proof of it stating that Wolverine had Primary adamantium or Sabertooth having Primary adamantium before. I don't think you would find it because everything is basically referenced as adamantium until it is either retconned by a writer.
Then to even blend this into Hulk favor, the guy ripped up a Uru hammer, the same type of material that is as dense as adamantium.
Find me that proof and your argument would be set in stone...until then you are basically just giving "your opinion" which is pretty much WRONG.
Originally posted by srankmissingninI didn't read any of that, but the gif let's me think you agree completely with me about everything.
Wolverine got around Herc's spider-sense and Herc's skills >>>>> Kung Fu Spider-man. Spider-man's kung fu is weak man, even Iron Fist was able to hit him. It didn't do anything of course because the Iron Fist is like a being hit with a pillow, but still! 😎Lets do it.
Originally posted by carver9
As I stated before, you can't mark something off as secondary adamantium just off of a hunch. Pure adamantium can and has been made and there is no reason for Dracula to throw anything secondary "at the Hulk".In order for your argument to hold any type of weight, you would need hard core proof just like I want that proof of it stating that Wolverine had Primary adamantium or Sabertooth having Primary adamantium before. I don't think you would find it because everything is basically referenced as adamantium until it is either retconned by a writer.
Then to even blend this into Hulk favor, the guy ripped up a Uru hammer, the same type of material that is as dense as adamantium.
Find me that proof and your argument would be set in stone...until then you are basically just giving "your opinion" which is pretty much WRONG.
Pure Adamantium is incredibly rare, there are only a handful of objects in the Marvel U known to be made of Primary Adamantium. Secondary Adamantium is the statuesque. It's the most common version, it's the one used for military purposes, and unless stated otherwise, "Adamantium" is Secondary Adamantium. That's just the way it is.
How many times has Thor's hammer shattered? Dozens. In continuity. How many times has Primary Adamantium been broken? None, at least not in continuity without the ad of matter manip. Breaking Uru doesn't even compare to breaking Adamantium, and the ability to break Uru doesn't add any credence at all to the suggestion that Hulk has or even could break Primary Adamantium (something he has said himself he can't do).
I'm not going to read through 5000+ Wolverine appearances to find a scan of something that isn't disputed by anyone but you. Wolverine skeleton is primary adamantium. When Marvel lists examples of primary Adamantium Wolverine skeleton is #1, fallowed by certain Ultron models.
Find me proof that Dracula's net is Primary Adamantium.
Originally posted by carver9
By the way Srank, I know that Sabes received his adamantium from Cyber arms because his body/flesh was chewed up by death bugs but was Cyber arms stated as being pure adamantium?
Cyber's Adamantium was the Adamantium that Genesis tried to place in Wolverine but Logan rejected the bonding process and turned feral. Sabretooth received his original Adamantium skeleton from Apocalypse, but that was taken from him and given to Wolverine., his second skeleton came from the revitalized Weapon X program.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Pure Adamantium is incredibly rare, there are only a handful of objects in the Marvel U known to be made of Primary Adamantium. Secondary Adamantium is the statuesque. It's the most common version, it's the one used for military purposes, and unless stated otherwise, "Adamantium" is Secondary Adamantium. That's just the way it is.How many times has Thor's hammer shattered? Dozens. In continuity. How many times has Primary Adamantium been broken? None, at least not in continuity without the ad of matter manip. Breaking Uru doesn't even compare to breaking Adamantium, and the ability to break Uru doesn't add any credence at all to the suggestion that Hulk has or even could break Primary Adamantium (something he has said himself he can't do).
I'm not going to read through 5000+ Wolverine appearances to find a scan of something that isn't disputed by anyone but you. Wolverine skeleton is primary adamantium. When Marvel lists examples of primary Adamantium Wolverine skeleton is #1, fallowed by certain Ultron models.
Find me proof that Dracula's net is Primary Adamantium.
When you show me that proof of Wolverine and Cyber possessing true adamantium.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Cyber's Adamantium was the Adamantium that Genesis tried to place in Wolverine but Logan rejected the bonding process and turned feral. Sabretooth received his original Adamantium skeleton from Apocalypse, but that was taken from him and given to Wolverine., his second skeleton came from the revitalized Weapon X program.
I know this. The death bugs ripped it from Cyber and then tried to place it into Wolverine but he rejected it and went feral and killed Genis and his crew.
Then there was the other encounter where Apocalypse had both Sabertooth and Wolverine fight to be his horseman (sabertooth had the adamantium inside of him) and Wolverine ended up going berserk, grabbing Sabertooth with his claws, lifting him in the air, ripping his stomach out...which resulted in Apocalypse bonding the adamantium into Wolverine.
There was nothing referenced or stated that Wolverine received pure adamantium during all of this unless again, you have scans that I did not see.
I will be waiting.
Like the new Hulk look.
Small preview of Hulk #1