Originally posted by carver9I said outside of the Amazing Spider-man ongoing.
Morlun, Electro, Venom, Doc Ock, hell, Spiderman entire Rogue received amps...except Mysterio.
Morlun wasn't upgraded
Carnage: Bionic legs, written up: Technopathy, mass absorbtion, control.
Doppelganger: Shouldn’t exist in the first place (completely inorganic), immortal.
Kraven: Undead (Immortal, can only be killed by Spider-man, Spider-man doesn’t kill).
Electro: Can now turn into pure electricity
Dr. Octopus: Overall bigger threat, 8 arms
Rhino: Mental state of mind
Chameleon: written up
Mysterio: new equipment
Sandman: Learned new tricks
Jackal: New genetic material (Spider Queen, Omega Level threat).
Vulture: Wake, Gravity Manipulation+ (can lift heavy objects now)
Lizard: Telepathy, transmutation of humans
Norman Osborn: Super Adaptoid
Alistair Smythe: Body upgraded (stronger, more durable, extra arms)
Scorpion: New armor
Hobgoblin: Goblin laugh
Venom: written differently
Originally posted by abhilegend
Then how is this canon?
How is it not?
All of those events happened, even all of the Gods including Donald Blake have knowledge of them, but Odin altered the perception of reality:
I got the Celestial Mechanics winding back confused with time travel I guess.
If you think any type of event in the mainstream Universe where reality is altered to bring characters back and so on is non-cannon, that's your prerogative, but I'll hold you to that and there's a lot of stories where such events happen.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Anyone trying to temper with the past just makes a new alternate reality in MU last I heard.
Where did you hear that from? There's also some logic problems with such a generalized stance. Ultimately irrelevant however, it was less time travel and more reality shifting so the damage would be undone as I understand it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How is it not?All of those events happened, even all of the Gods including Donald Blake have knowledge of them, but Odin altered the perception of reality:
I got the Celestial Mechanics winding back confused with time travel I guess.
If you think any type of event in the mainstream Universe where reality is altered to bring characters back and so on is non-cannon, that's your prerogative, but I'll hold you to that and there's a lot of stories where such events happen.
Where did you hear that from? There's also some logic problems with such a generalized stance. Ultimately irrelevant however, it was less time travel and more reality shifting so the damage would be undone as I understand it.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Any other example like this by which you think its canon? I can't see the scan as I'm on my phone. Having knowledge of it doesn't mean its canon.
Any event where characters are brought back to life and reality is shifted to undo the damage would count as non-canon under such rules.
Which I think is an extremely stupid stance to have, especially since we aren't comic book characters. We have the events in front of our eyes and as reference points. Odin and the other Asgardians having knowledge of such events shows that it wasn't just a giant eraser taken to that part of the story.
Originally posted by abhilegend
What do yot mean where did I heard it? Its a general rule for time travel in MU and that's why Reigning isn't canon to king thor.
You need to elaborate on that.
How does that make any sense? Of course Reigning is canon to King Thor, it's where the majority of his stories took place. But when he went back in time to do the events, it stopped being the current future and I'm assuming all of those events never happened or whatever.
But like I said, we aren't comic book characters. If someone makes a King Thor thread, expect feats from the Reigning arc to be referenced. It's how we know of his capabilities and what he can do for the most part.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Any event where characters are brought back to life and reality is shifted to undo the damage would count as non-canon under such rules.Which I think is an extremely stupid stance to have, especially since we aren't comic book characters. We have the events in front of our eyes and as reference points. Odin and the other Asgardians having knowledge of such events shows that it wasn't just a giant eraser taken to that part of the story.
You need to elaborate on that.
How does that make any sense? Of course Reigning is canon to King Thor, it's where the majority of his stories took place. But when he went back in time to do the events, it stopped being the current future and I'm assuming all of those events never happened or whatever.
But like I said, we aren't comic book characters. If someone makes a King Thor thread, expect feats from the Reigning arc to be referenced. It's how we know of his capabilities and what he can do for the most part.
Originally posted by psycho gundamactually Banner pulled the trigger and he transformed into Hulk cause of the anxiety and Hulk not wanting to die.
bruce banner already tried to shoot himself in the head to end it, hulk just healed after
nice attempt to spin what actually happen.
iirc the following panel Hulk spit the bullet out of his mouth and even if the event were as u described it, it is not consistent with how Bruce is portrayed normally and it is a one time event.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I am just asking for those instances.
Thing went in the past to cure himself, instead made an alternate reality. Even unilord saga isn't canon for 616 surfer by the same rules. Just recently hulkpool created an alternate reality by trying to kill himself in past.
Yeah, that doesn't makes sense but its in the rules.srug
That's different though, changing the past of course will make a new reality, the |Thor issue in question was in the present, but Odin undid it. It's the exact same Thor and Loki from current canon. The feats are canon for them, and were against the 616 versions it's only not canon to Thing and them because they made it so it didn't happen. The best way to explain it is, that Reality was warped around them so that it didn't happen, but didn't actually alter them in anyway.
Originally posted by jalek moye
That's different though, changing the past of course will make a new reality, the |Thor issue in question was in the present, but Odin undid it. It's the exact same Thor and Loki from current canon. The feats are canon for them, and were against the 616 versions it's only not canon to Thing and them because they made it so it didn't happen. The best way to explain it is, that Reality was warped around them so that it didn't happen, but didn't actually alter them in anyway.
