Originally posted by srankmissingninThat's an inaccurate account of what happened. Hyperion didn't survive the destructive force that destroyed two Universes; what he survived was two planets [Earths] collapsing and destroying eachother.
Hyperion held two earths apart until the strain destroyed the planets and then survived the destructive force that destroyed two universes, and he was completely unscathed. 😄
It ties in with what's happening in New Avengers [which is also written by Hickman] - the Multiverse is contracting due to an event that happened in one of the parallel Universes's Earth, causing that Universe to be destroyed. Now, Earths all over the Multiverse are harmonically aligning and then crashing into eachother [due to Earth being the 'incursion' point where it all began], which in turn destroys both of the Universes.
If Hyperion would have destroyed the hostile Earth [the one which was about to crash into his Earth], then his Universe would have survived. That's what the Swan did in New Avengers, she used tech to destroy the Earth which would have collapsed with the 616 Universe, saving the 616 version.
Needless to say, he didn't. He didn't stop them from touching and destroying eachother. And he didn't destroy one of them before that [as, if he would have, then his Universe would have been saved]. The 'strain of him holding them apart destroying them' is wrong.
Slowing down [supposedly] and then surviving two planets colliding and destroying eachother is impressive, to be sure. A high-end feat for any top tier. Even Superman [pre-DCnU] was knocked out by Apokolips and New Genesis colliding, for example.
Originally posted by carver9They're not the same versions of Hyperion. /facepalm The only way I'll come at you is over your face.
Gladiator snapped that neck. The same Glads that can rip black holes in half and destroy moon's with a punch. Come at me. 😉
Originally posted by -Pr-I'm neck deep in exams. Basically, I logged in just to waste some time, because I don't feel like learning at the moment.
This is gonna be good...
Originally posted by carver9I'm one of the few persons here who has actually read both of the series [Avengers and New Avengers] and who is informed enough to post what actually happened.
Pretty clear what happened in those scans. Philo is hating like usual.
You're the guy who can't even differentiate between Hyperions.
My offer to come over your face still stands.
Originally posted by Philosophía
That's an inaccurate account of what happened. Hyperion didn't survive the destructive force that destroyed two Universes; what he survived was two planets [Earths] collapsing and destroying eachother.It ties in with what's happening in New Avengers [which is also written by Hickman] - the Multiverse is contracting due to an event that happened in one of the parallel Universes's Earth, causing that Universe to be destroyed. Now, Earths all over the Multiverse are harmonically aligning and then crashing into eachother [due to Earth being the 'incursion' point where it all began], which in turn destroys both of the Universes.
If Hyperion would have destroyed the hostile Earth [the one which was about to crash into his Earth], then his Universe would have survived. That's what the Swan did in New Avengers, she used tech to destroy the Earth which would have collapsed with the 616 Universe, saving the 616 version.
Needless to say, he didn't. He didn't stop them from touching and destroying eachother. And he didn't destroy one of them before that [as, if he would have, then his Universe would have been saved]. The 'strain of him holding them apart destroying them' is wrong.
Slowing down [supposedly] and then surviving two planets colliding and destroying eachother is impressive, to be sure. A high-end feat for any top tier. Even Superman [pre-DCnU] was knocked out by Apokolips and New Genesis colliding, for example.
Originally posted by srankmissingninEnd of page bump
The planets breaking apart and touching destroyed both yooniverses, based on Hyperion floating in nothingless, and it saying it...
Hyperion survived.
Deal with it.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Because if everything said on panel is true, than this new Hyperion has the best feats out of the herald level.And he's from Marvel, ick
You're right we can't trust it.
I have to put my foot down. If it isn't Superman benching the weight of earth it doesn't f@ckign count!
Originally posted by srankmissingninValid point.
You're right we can't trust it.I have to put my foot down. If it isn't Superman benching the weight of earth it doesn't f@ckign count!
Though I'm curious what the Vulcan Data h1calculator has to say on this feat. Holding two moving Earths apart, and them breaking apart around you has to be up there.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
The planets breaking apart and touching destroyed both yooniverses, based on Hyperion floating in nothingless, and it saying it...Hyperion survived.
Deal with it.
Originally posted by srankmissingninWhat he survived was the Earths smashing together, which led to both Universes perishing due to a cascade effect [due to the Earths being the incursion points].
It directly states on panel that he survive the destructive energy that destroyed everything else in two universes. Why is this discussion even happening outside of the fact that Superman hasn't done it?
Two planets hitting eachother =/= power to destroy two Universes.
Or are we going full retarded here?
Originally posted by Philosophía
What he survived was the Earths smashing together, which led to both Universes perishing due to a cascade effect [due to the Earths being the incursion points].Two planets hitting eachother =/= power to destroy two Universes.
Or are we going full retarded here?
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Two planets crashing together isn't want destroyed two Universe. Two earths, from two separate universe, merging into one Universe, and then colliding with each other is. The cascading energy destroyed everything else in both Universes, Hyperion survived it. I'm sorry its more impressive than Superman, get over it?
Originally posted by Philosophía😂
What he survived was the Earths smashing together, which led to both Universes perishing due to a cascade effect [due to the Earths being the incursion points].Two planets hitting eachother =/= power to destroy two Universes.
Or are we going full retarded here?
Stop trying to get the thread closed with your chicken babble.
But yes, I think two planets colliding is enough to destroy 2 universes... use your head.
Even following your logic (that all he survived was two planets colliding), you're ignoring that EVERYTHING perished in those universes. the debris, the stars, everything.
So Hyperion was placed in a bubble or something and felt none of the force? Is that what you think?
Originally posted by srankmissingninYou said the same thing, just with different words.
Two planets crashing together isn't want destroyed two Universe. Two earths, from two separate universe, merging into one Universe, and then colliding with each other is.
Originally posted by srankmissingninHyperion survived the Earths crashing into eachother. This produced a cascade effect, which destroyed the Universes, because those two Earths were the incursion points.
The cascading energy destroyed everything else in both Universes, Hyperion survived it.
It's not the same with Hyperion surviving a blast that destroyed two Universes. He survived two planets smashing eachother, which cascaded into the Universes being destroyed.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
😂Stop trying to get the thread closed with your chicken babble.
But yes, I think two planets colliding is enough to destroy 2 universes... use your head.
Even following your logic (that all he survived was two planets colliding), you're ignoring that EVERYTHING perished in those universes. the debris, the stars, everything.
So Hyperion was placed in a bubble or something and felt none of the force? Is that what you think?
I think Superman probably felt his anguish across the omni-verse and willed him to survive.
It's the only thing that makes sense if you really think about it.
Originally posted by Philosophía
You said the same thing, just with different words.Hyperion survived the Earths crashing into eachother. This produced a cascade effect, which destroyed the Universes, because those two Earths were the incursion points.
It's not the same with Hyperion surviving a blast that destroyed two Universes. He survived two planets smashing eachother, which cascaded into the Universes being destroyed.
It's not two planets. It's two of the same planet. That's what destroyed everything. Stop low balling the example.
The same matter can not occupy same space. Time Cop rules.
