Character Ownage

Originally posted by Sundipped
Debatable.
She got koed by Namor who only had a portion of the Phoenix Force which is a legit cosmic entity.
As of late she has shown that she can surpass a high herald if need be but we have to go back to HOM in terms of placing her that high in the hierarchy. I hope writers can stay consistent with her power from here on out. So far so good.

Last I checked, when Wanda taps in her Chaos Magic like that (Post Busiek-era anyways), she shoots up past trans-level. I haven't been keeping up in-depth with all her changes though.

"Plummeting deeply into the cosmic well of Chaos Energy."

"Tapping Directly into the source of her power, she is transformed into a living conduit of pure disorder."

It was pointed out that she tapped so far into her power, it nearly turned her into a demon and/or crazy.

Namor possessed a 1/5th of the Phoenix Force, far greater than a portion. Wanda also beat Magik:
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/AvX-Zone7-005.jpg
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/AvX-Zone7-006.jpg
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/AvX-Zone7-007.jpg

And Namor (Although it's a double knock-out):
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/AVX-Zone-016.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/AVX-Zone-017.jpg

She punks Namor on a different occasion:
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/AvX-Zone7-016.jpg
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/AvX-Zone7-017.jpg
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/AvX-Zone7-018.jpg

Either way, crazy feat for Thor to just shrug off her best like that.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Last I checked, when Wanda taps in her Chaos Magic like that (Post Busiek-era anyways), she shoots up past trans-level. I haven't been keeping up in-depth with all her changes though.

"Plummeting deeply into the cosmic well of Chaos Energy."

"Tapping Directly into the source of her power, she is transformed into a living conduit of pure disorder."

It was pointed out that she tapped so far into her power, it nearly turned her into a demon and/or crazy.

Namor possessed a 1/5th of the Phoenix Force, far greater than a portion. Wanda also beat Magik:
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/AvX-Zone7-005.jpg
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/AvX-Zone7-006.jpg
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/AvX-Zone7-007.jpg

And Namor (Although it's a double knock-out):
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/AVX-Zone-016.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/AVX-Zone-017.jpg

She punks Namor on a different occasion:
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/AvX-Zone7-016.jpg
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/AvX-Zone7-017.jpg
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/AvX-Zone7-018.jpg

Either way, crazy feat for Thor to just shrug off her best like that.

If you believe she was at the same power level she was in AvX in those scans, I don't know what to tell you.

All I know is during AVX, Wanda was operating on high trans to low skyfather levels and there is nothing shown or stated about her being depowered after this. Good showing for Thor...just accept it and move on.

Originally posted by carver9
All I know is during AVX, Wanda was operating on high trans to low skyfather levels and there is nothing shown or stated about her being depowered after this. Good showing for Thor...just accept it and move on.

Nah, let them cry for a few more pages.....it's rather amusing and as a bonus, it highlights their bias.

She clearly was not operating at her AvX levels, she was taking out Pheonix powered characters, the same chracters that were routinely taking out Thor. Yet all she could do is BFR Thor here? Naaaa

Wolverine and Hercules sitting in a tree

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Namor possessed a 1/5th of the Phoenix Force, far greater than a portion. Wanda also beat Magik:
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/AvX-Zone7-005.jpg
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/AvX-Zone7-006.jpg
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/AvX-Zone7-007.jpg

And Namor (Although it's a double knock-out):
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/AVX-Zone-016.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/AVX-Zone-017.jpg

She punks Namor on a different occasion:
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/AvX-Zone7-016.jpg
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/AvX-Zone7-017.jpg
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/AvX-Zone7-018.jpg

Originally posted by -K-M-
Wolverine and Hercules sitting in a tree

Wait what??????

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Wait what??????

Hercules and Wolverine are gay, I thought this was common knowledge.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Iirc, her showings against the P5 were alluded to her power being the Phoenix's kryptonite or some such.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Wait what??????

Originally posted by -K-M-
Wolverine and Hercules sitting in a tree

Maybe they plan this for April Fool's day... please... not Wolverine...

It's alternate reality versions of Herc and Wolverine. Though 616 Hercules has had sex with 616 Northstar.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Maybe they plan this for April Fool's day... please... not Wolverine...

Why not? Wolverine being gay is rather believable.

I don't think it's that far fetched for Thor to tank Wanda's best. I wouldn't get crazy and put her up with the skyfathers and stuff, but rather around Thor's level. The author's playing up Thor's durability and not his energy absorption/etc. So where as some might have him absorb and redirect it, Remender had him charge through.

Originally posted by -K-M-
It's alternate reality versions of Herc and Wolverine. Though 616 Hercules has had sex with 616 Northstar.

😕

Originally posted by carver9
😕

I don't mind him slamming Northstar.

But I do mind that terrible writing....

I'm not sure if I hate the writer or the editor more for that scan...

also, apparently all of those women, save the dark elf, dye their hair...

Originally posted by zopzop
Dude, Wanda's power level is all over the place. According to these scans, it reminds me of her days on the West Coast Avengers (ie she needs rest between her Hexes).

If you believe she was at the same power level she was in AvX in those scans, I don't know what to tell you.

She does seem to fluctuate but for the last 10 years as far as I can tell, she's been beyond Herald, at least in potential. Even before that, her Hexes could be OP.

Also, the reason Red Skull kidnapped her was so that Wanda could go "No more Mutants." like in HoM, except this time for good although she needed a power source to boost her energy.

She's obviously far weaker than her HOM levels, but is there a reason why she should be weaker than her AvX levels? Like I said, I don't keep up with Wanda that much but here she was tapping into pure Chaos Magic which was even described as a cosmic well.

Either way, I'm fine with it, I just want to know if you have any evidence is all.