Character Ownage

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Originally posted by abhilegend

rofl

Originally posted by Galan007
The Starbrand came out looking pretty weak in this issue, imo.

It looks about as strong as the Newuniversal counter part. Possibly stronger, we never got a grasp of how potent it was. At least here, they give us a ballpark of Planetary Defender/Destroyer.

If it follows the Newuniversal mythos, he has the capacity to not only discharge blasts. But manipulate time/space, and some other nice exotics.

Originally posted by Galan007
The Starbrand came out looking pretty weak in this issue, imo.

Thor not getting one-shotted is a really low feat.

Originally posted by Galan007
The Starbrand came out looking pretty weak in this issue, imo.

Yup. It's basically a herald level artifact now.

More proof Hickman is a moron. He's attempting to write this "grand" cosmic story about broken realities and he's failing miserably.

I mean ANY high herald being can stop these incursions by destroying the planet causing it. They could just call in Thor or an enraged Hulk and I'm sure they are capable of busting a planet.

Hell, REED has a Celestial killing gun in his closet, why does he need to reverse engineer Black Swan's bomb (to blow up a planet) with T'Challa's help? I'm sure he has deadlier crap than that taking up space in his garage. Makes no phucking sense. 🙄

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Thor not getting one-shotted is a really low feat.

That was the worst part. Taurus of the Zodiac Cartel >>>>>Starbrand according to Hickman.

Originally posted by zopzop
Yup. It's basically a herald level artifact now.

More proof Hickman is a moron. He's attempting to write this "grand" cosmic story about broken realities and he's failing miserably.

I wouldn't say its necessarily herald level, this was a pretty unexperienced user casually handling some of the top heralds in Earth. I know lacking experience is a cop out for the showing, but I see it as something Hickman can potentially pull.

Originally posted by zopzop
I mean ANY high herald being can stop these incursions by destroying the planet causing it. They could just call in Thor or an enraged Hulk and I'm sure they are capable of busting a planet.

This is a very DC-ish storyline in my book, because in a gray morality universe such as Marvel's of course it would only make sense to boost a planet, but DC heroes would need to find a way. Not sure exactly where I stand there.

Also destroying the world may as well trigger everything falling down or whatever -cop out # 2-.

Originally posted by zopzop
Hell, REED has a Celestial killing gun in his closet, why does he need to reverse engineer Black Swan's bomb (to blow up a planet) with T'Challa's help? I'm sure he has deadlier crap than that taking up space in his garage. Makes no phucking sense. 🙄

Actually Reed's enthropy gun worked with the Celestial because it was "bleeding" energy, the gun just made the ratio of such energy loss so high that the Celestial died out. It isn't just a "Celestial boosting gun".

That said, Hickman should know better than anyone that Reed is more than capable of busting planets by himself. It's only logical considering the crap Reed has pulled off in the past.

In a totally unrelated topic: Brace for the incoming thread Image Angela vs Marvel Angela 😛

Originally posted by zopzop
Taurus of the Zodiac Cartel >>>>>Starbrand according to Hickman.

Because that's how comics work. facepalm

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Because that's how comics work. facepalm

Of course it does in Zop's world.

Originally posted by zopzop
Yup. It's basically a herald level artifact now.

More proof Hickman is a moron. He's attempting to write this "grand" cosmic story about broken realities and he's failing miserably.

I mean ANY high herald being can stop these incursions by destroying the planet causing it. They could just call in Thor or an enraged Hulk and I'm sure they are capable of busting a planet.

Hell, REED has a Celestial killing gun in his closet, why does he need to reverse engineer Black Swan's bomb (to blow up a planet) with T'Challa's help? I'm sure he has deadlier crap than that taking up space in his garage. Makes no phucking sense. 🙄

That was the worst part. Taurus of the Zodiac Cartel >>>>>Starbrand according to Hickman.

I think the sense is that Reed and that don't want to repeatedly kill billions of people to stop incursions. Sure, they can destroy the others Earths, but the story so far seems to be about how far they're willing to go.

It'd be boring as hell and terrible characterisation and plotting if the solution was getting Thor to commit genocide a hundred times.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
I think the sense is that Reed and that don't want to repeatedly kill billions of people to stop incursions. Sure, they can destroy the others Earths, but the story so far seems to be about how far they're willing to go.

That's not how I read it. Unless I'm mistaken, they are going to do ANYTHING possible to save 616 Earth from destruction, even if that means destroying the alternate Earths (population and all). That's why they mind wiped Captain America in the first place, because he didn't approve of their "by any means necessary" mindset in terms of dealing with the incursions.

It'd be boring as hell and terrible characterisation and plotting if the solution was getting Thor to commit genocide a hundred times.

It doesn't HAVE to be Thor, but he's more than capable of doing it (supposedly). Destroying a couple of planets during incursion events to buy the Illuminati some time to fix this mess, isn't something Thor (or whatever Herald they enlisted) wouldn't do to save his reality.

It's not like they would be asking him to commit genocide just for fun.

All this is secondary anyway. This moron, Hickman, wrote that whole "Council of Reeds" garbage. Reed has God Killing tech at his beck and call. I'm sure he has planet busting bombs too. Why does he need to reverse engineer Black Swan's planet killing bomb? Why does he need T'Challa's help in doing so?

ANY high herald or "High Science" types can stop these incursions.

This entire storyline makes ZERO sense.

Except you know, we've never seen that Reed or any of the others stockpile planet shattering bombs as why the hell would they? They're the good guys. Re-engineering BS's tech is just a faster method.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Except you know, we've never seen that Reed or any of the others stockpile planet shattering bombs as why the hell would they? They're the good guys. Re-engineering BS's tech is just a faster method.

This. Frankly, most of Zop's complaints are pretty absurd.

Lol at the starbrand being only High Herald. An inexperienced user just took on (and tanked attacks) one of the most powerful team in Marvel right now. This alone puts him at high trans. Being able to casually bust planets doesn't mean that your power level stops at high Herald, you also have to include other factors as well. Let's use Thanos as an example...I would easily rank him as a planet buster but I also don't believe he would have done as good against that team like the inexperienced Starbrand user did BUT, I would still rank him as high trans. I think some of you all are looking a lil too much at this fight (even though Hulk is a beast).

Good job Hickman.

I think the fight was pretty good and I genuinely like the fact no one looked like a ***** sans "AIIIEEEEEE" LOL Been a while since I saw a scream like that.

Besides the kid didn't even know what was going on. They were bullying the poor chap.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Doubt it, maybe when Kurt gets a remake or the swashbuckler uniform. B&T Wolverine >>> P5 Cyke

What PvP league did you get to in the last tournament, btw?

* well, now that Kurt has his Swashbuckler alt and upgrade, you bet your a$s i can... i hope Cyke get his soon...

* just gold... i often get bored in PVP battles, i like farming CP's in 4.4 and doing Spec Ops... got all Spec Ops heroes except for that elusive Mocking Bird...

* do we have a Marvel: Avengers Alliance forum thread here in KMC?let's talk about this on a proper thread, you filthy agent... 😛

Originally posted by carver9
Lol at the starbrand being only High Herald. An inexperienced user just took on (and tanked attacks) one of the most powerful team in Marvel right now. This alone puts him at high trans. Being able to casually bust planets doesn't mean that your power level stops at high Herald, you also have to include other factors as well. Let's use Thanos as an example...I would easily rank him as a planet buster but I also don't believe he would have done as good against that team like the inexperienced Starbrand user did BUT, I would still rank him as high trans. I think some of you all are looking a lil too much at this fight (even though Hulk is a beast).

Good job Hickman.

It's as if you genuinely don't see how transparent you are.

Irony...

Lol I was wondering why "AAAAAAIEEEEEEE"? That's like the official b*tch scream of comics 😂

If anything it's kinda weird Captain Universe, who seems she can end any conflict with a snap of a finger just hangs back and babbles like a moron. Guess we'll find out why.

Originally posted by Tar-Antado
If anything it's kinda weird Captain Universe, who seems she can end any conflict with a snap of a finger just hangs back and babbles like a moron. Guess we'll find out why.

Because she knew something was at play besides a guy trying to wreck the Avengers.

Glad to see planet-busting power is conclusively above what the Marvel top-tiers (i.e. Hyperion, Hulk, Thor) are capable of.

If Superman would come to Marvel, he'd have to be careful not to punch too hard, otherwise bitches would falling left and right.

ha-som

Originally posted by Philosophía
Glad to see planet-busting power is conclusively above what the Marvel top-tiers (i.e. Hyperion, Hulk, Thor) are capable of.

If Superman would come to Marvel, he'd have to be careful not to punch too hard, otherwise bitches would falling left and right.

ha-som

😕

This guy is really serious.