Because people were too lazy to post this from Eternity's respect thread:
Hank Pym getting bitchslapped by all reality for being a crybaby
Originally posted by galactusischere
So Eternity doesn't have H2H skills u say?http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BbwKFx3S-s0/SuZaNJK6CjI/AAAAAAAAAYQ/EL-wizhpHIs/s1600-h/Mighty-Avengers-030-pg-02.jpg
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Originally posted by Zack Fair
Because people were too lazy to post this from Eternity's respect thread:Hank Pym getting bitchslapped by all reality for being a crybaby
Just nothing but crying, feebleness and stupidity. Wolverine should have just ended him.
Originally posted by janus77
Hank Pym has got to be one of the most pathetic "major" characters in Marvel.Just nothing but crying, feebleness and stupidity. Wolverine should have just ended him.
they should of retconned Hank building Ultron out of the adamantium corpse of Wolverine...
Gotta disagree. 1) Ants? Surely that's just silly, even by comic-book standards. 2) He grows really large on account of some particles he's learnt to manipulate but still gets his arse handed to him by anyone and everyone. 3) He built an A.I. he couldn't understand and stupidly gave it objectives far too grandiose for either himself or the robot. 4) He's arrogant without having any of the redeeming competences of say Stark, Reed, Doom, Banner or even flippin' Doc Ock.
For such a lame and meaningless character, I really think Marvel give him far too much "screen time". It's the equivalent of giving Wasp an on-going or something.
Anyway, I just find the current Age of Ultron stuff very tiring and boring. Wolverine kills Pym (with ridiculously embarrassing ease) and the future ends up worse with something like The Age of Ladytron ... Stark's too stupid to take on Ultron's programming, Reed is conveniently absent, having died off panel. No one bothers to think of using the infinity gems ...
I appreciate Marvel are trying to resurrect this abortion of a character, I just don't think it's worth it.
Originally posted by janus77
Gotta disagree. 1) Ants? Surely that's just silly, even by comic-book standards. 2) He grows really large on account of some particles he's learnt to manipulate but still gets his arse handed to him by anyone and everyone. 3) He built an A.I. he couldn't understand and stupidly gave it objectives far too grandiose for either himself or the robot. 4) He's arrogant without having any of the redeeming competences of say Stark, Reed, Doom, Banner or even flippin' Doc Ock.For such a lame and meaningless character, I really think Marvel give him far too much "screen time". It's the equivalent of giving Wasp an on-going or something.
Anyway, I just find the current Age of Ultron stuff very tiring and boring. Wolverine kills Pym (with ridiculously embarrassing ease) and the future ends up worse with something like The Age of Ladytron ... Stark's too stupid to take on Ultron's programming, Reed is conveniently absent, having died off panel. No one bothers to think of using the infinity gems ...
I appreciate Marvel are trying to resurrect this abortion of a character, I just don't think it's worth it.
Is that you, Bendis?
1.) Ants are weird, but spiders are ok? 😬
2.) He is a human, do you want all heroes to be invincible supermen? He has solid highs and embarrassing loses
3.)Ultron was built as a lab assistant, the Avengers kicking out a mentally compromised "friend" instead of helping him led to Ultron going rogue
4.) Really? Ok he built all of Captain Americas gear, he personally saved Tony from living the rest of his life as a Fem-bot, he told tony the phoenix buster armor would fail before firing, he has personally saved the world as many times as any other hero...
Not to mentioned, he FOUNDED the Avengers, it was his idea, he was the original leader, Hell he wrote the charter.
1.) Ants are weird, but spiders are ok? 😬
Doc Ock's actually made good - and quite sensible - use of robot-spiders in Superior Spider-Man and, no Spiders aren't ok, but they weren't anything more than an origin story for the most part. Hardly a persistent theme of Spider-Man using spiders to fight crime or something.
2.) He is a human, do you want all heroes to be invincible supermen? He has solid highs and embarrassing loses
Invincible? no, but competent would be good. He plays pacifist like Surfer, but even Surfer knows when to (and how to) fight back. He could do a lot more with the supposed attributes he has. I mean look at Reed ... Simply creatively using his one-power is enough for him to deal with many opponents.
3.)Ultron was built as a lab assistant, the Avengers kicking out a mentally compromised "friend" instead of helping him led to Ultron going rogue
It's not that it went rogue, it's that he really didn't have any understanding of what he was doing... Again, just makes him rather pathetic.
4.) Really? Ok he built all of Captain Americas gear, he personally saved Tony from living the rest of his life as a Fem-bot, he told tony the phoenix buster armor would fail before firing, he has personally saved the world as many times as any other hero...
Captain America's gear? That's ... well, I suppose it's ... hmm. Not sure what that amounts to exactly, aren't we supposed to take Pym as a genius in the Stark-class?
Tony's written to be rash on occasion (from the Thor clone to the business of splitting up the Phoenix Force, he's ****ed things up for Earth good and proper, but he's done it whilst remaining interesting and his failings - as well as his successes - have been a part of his character, not some accident).
Basically, Hank Pym seems like a watered down version of everything that was wrong with The Sentry. An attempt at making a "more flawed" hero, with super-powers, only to make him boring and dull and contrived rather than dark, brittle and/or tormented.
Originally posted by janus77
Basically, Hank Pym seems like a watered down version of everything that was wrong with The Sentry. An attempt at making a "more flawed" hero, with super-powers, only to make him boring and dull and contrived rather than dark, brittle and/or tormented.
lol
I can't believe you just compared Pym to the Sentry. That's an insult to Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. Pym's mental issues haven't been a severe issue (though they have been referenced) for years. Hell, Pym's probably one of the more well written characters that suffered from mental illness than most, if only because he's actually shown signs of recovery without it being like a magical "sanity retcon" and still acknowledges his prior issues without being defined by them.
The point is they're not interesting. Didn't work with The Sentry either.
Pym just comes across as basically daft. Not quite as ridiculous as say Squirrel Girl, but nowhere near as "realistic" or imaginative as say IM.
I just don't see the point of the character, other than crying, being feeble, getting beaten up and then feeling sorry for himself.
It's Marvel Earth, anyone with an IQ larger than Wondy's boobies knows it's a difficult and threatening universe out there ...
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
lolI can't believe you just compared Pym to the Sentry. That's an insult to Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. Pym's mental issues haven't been a severe issue (though they have been referenced) for years. Hell, Pym's probably one of the more well written characters that suffered from mental illness than most, if only because he's actually shown signs of recovery without it being like a magical "sanity retcon" and still acknowledges his prior issues without being defined by them.
I think they're really similar.
Great characters who are often underutilized and ruined by that idiot Bendis.
