Character Ownage

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Originally posted by basilisk
Unfortunately it also sort of highlighted the problem - by requiring such a massive, deliberate, and concerted effort by the writer to get Pym even in the ballpark of what Stark, Reed etc seem to casually do.
👆 without artificial propping to the point of inventing new cosmic concepts for the saking of boosting his morale his base status is living in the shadows of the other geniuses. what's worse, unlike banner's somewhat equally artificial push, pym's seemed motivated by pity.

Spider-Man vs the Incredible Hulk:

Wonder Girl ain't too shabby, despite the horrible writing. She staggered Trigon, punked Raven... lulz

Originally posted by basilisk
Unfortunately it also sort of highlighted the problem - by requiring such a massive, deliberate, and concerted effort by the writer to get Pym even in the ballpark of what Stark, Reed etc seem to casually do.

I'm thinking that a Pym/Aquaman team-up is seriously needed.

Don't get me wrong - I don't hate Pym and I never wanted to dislike him, I just always thought he seemed like a loser right from the beginning. I enjoyed his run in Mighty Avengers and it was good to see him get some effective panel time as a lead character.

The guy has been in the ballpark of the likes of Stark since the very beginning of his appearances in comics. It was just dickhead writers treating him with disrespect recently (ie Bendis) that have had him looking bad.

Pym is being seriously underrated here.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Spider-Man vs the Incredible Hulk:

So how'd the guy know it was go down that way? Is he a time-traveling space nazi?

Cannot read the scans. What actually happened?

Originally posted by Nephthys
So how'd the guy know it was go down that way? Is he a time-traveling space nazi?

It's Electro. He's tangled with Spidey enough times to know Parker's modus operandi in fights.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Cannot read the scans. What actually happened?

Are you viewing it in the Mobile version? If not, just right click on the image, and select the "Open image in new tab" option. A resizable image will appear in a new tab then.

A guy makes a bunch of bets with some dudes in a bar, accurately predicting the entire fight. At the end Spidey tricks Hulk into running to a wall, causing a cement mixer to fall on him.

Edit: Ah, he just legit predicted everything. Impressive.

Originally posted by basilisk
Unfortunately it also sort of highlighted the problem - by requiring such a massive, deliberate, and concerted effort by the writer to get Pym even in the ballpark of what Stark, Reed etc seem to casually do.

I'm thinking that a Pym/Aquaman team-up is seriously needed.

Don't get me wrong - I don't hate Pym and I never wanted to dislike him, I just always thought he seemed like a loser right from the beginning. I enjoyed his run in Mighty Avengers and it was good to see him get some effective panel time as a lead character.

I don't think that's really true.

Under Lee/Kirby, Pym was always treated as a peer to Stark and Richards. Granted, Stark and Richards certainly had the benefit of being focused on a lot more on their respective teams as well as Stark having his own series, but Pym was hardly ever shown to be vastly inferior to either.

If any thing, the whole "Pym struck Janet and is a mess mentally" was more of a concentrated effort by the writer than Pym's run with Mighty Avengers and push since then. And writers made it a point to constantly point out Pym hitting Janet and making Ultron and his mental issues when guys like Reed have berated their significant other more often and haven't been mentally ill during it.

I guess Slott and Gage trying to make Pym relevant and move him as a character beyond the very old tropes of slapping his wife and making a genocidal robot was deliberate and "forced", but really, considering he had been MIA since before Secret Invasion, it works.

Originally posted by Nephthys
So how'd the guy know it was go down that way? Is he a time-traveling space nazi?

It's electro.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I don't think that's really true.

Under Lee/Kirby, Pym was always treated as a peer to Stark and Richards. Granted, Stark and Richards certainly had the benefit of being focused on a lot more on their respective teams as well as Stark having his own series, but Pym was hardly ever shown to be vastly inferior to either.

If any thing, the whole "Pym struck Janet and is a mess mentally" was more of a concentrated effort by the writer than Pym's run with Mighty Avengers and push since then. And writers made it a point to constantly point out Pym hitting Janet and making Ultron and his mental issues when guys like Reed have berated their significant other more often and haven't been mentally ill during it.

I guess Slott and Gage trying to make Pym relevant and move him as a character beyond the very old tropes of slapping his wife and making a genocidal robot was deliberate and "forced", but really, considering he had been MIA since before Secret Invasion, it works.

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What does PR's favourite characters have in common?

See;

Aquaman
Pym
Cyclops

- They're assholes
- Wound up waaaaay tight
- Dead wives
- Short hair

Originally posted by curryman
What does PR's favourite characters have in common?

See;

Aquaman
Pym
Cyclops

- They're assholes
- Wound up waaaaay tight
- Dead wives
- Short hair

You only have one of my top 3 on that list.

Still untrue, too.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You only have one of my top 3 on that list.

Still untrue, too.

🙁

It's true

Originally posted by curryman
🙁

It's true

Not really, not across all of those three even.

One or two, maybe. Not the ******* part, though.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You only have one of my top 3 on that list.

Still untrue, too.

Aquaman, Superman and Hal?

Originally posted by Bentley
Aquaman, Superman and Hal?

Cyclops, Superman, Colossus, Aquaman, Wally, Hal. Pym is in the top ten though.

Since I like your taste in general I will pretend I never learned that you have Colossus on your top five.

Originally posted by Bentley
Since I like your taste in general I will pretend I never learned that you have Colossus on your top five.

😂

Pr's a colossus fan?

That explains it all...