Character Ownage

Started by emporerpants5,121 pages

Let's not forget that in Superman/Batman recently Supes let his guard down so an amped Batman could "kill" him. Only took one punch too.

Originally posted by basilisk
Reboot Superman is appalling. He's not Superman anymore, just some guy in a suit who doesn't act much like Superman and seems to get beat up every time he gets in a fight. I'm surprised he ventures out of his fortress anymore. Even when he did manage to do something to Apollo it was after an amp. It's like DC are almost afraid to show him as being better than anyone - he's becoming an embarrassment to the company.

Someone needs to reboot him, fast.


That seems to be the reason. Before reboot it was everyone's complain that superman overshadows every one of his peers, so its getting to JLU season 1 style jobbing where superman is getting beaten by everyone to appease other fan bases apparently. Soule explained this issue as making Diana look better because WW fans on CBR complained about doomsday beating her.

Originally posted by emporerpants
Let's not forget that in Superman/Batman recently Supes let his guard down so an amped Batman could "kill" him. Only took one punch too.

Someone is still reading that shit?

Ironically, I was hoping for some better feats for Supes out of it. But apparently DC's hate and/or unwillingness to anger other fan bases is preventing that from happening. I guess even "I wank the shi# out of character I'm writing" Pak can't change that.

Originally posted by emporerpants
Let's not forget that in Superman/Batman recently Supes let his guard down so an amped Batman could "kill" him. Only took one punch too.

An amped Batman killed him in ONE punch? Lol, scans someone please?

Originally posted by Galan007
In all fairness, the Venom inextricably gave Bruce the ability to fly as well. 😛

He was just leaping no?

Yeah. Artist (Finch?) made it look like he was flying, though (especially on the splash page).

Originally posted by emporerpants
The only time he looked good was right when the NU52 started. After that it was all downhill. Sure, he got a few good feats, but in the actual fights, he's lost pretty much every fight he's been in. The only fights I can think of that he actually won are in the 1st issues of Justice League where he fought Bruce, Barry, and Hal, and also later on in WW/Supes when he beat Apollo after a power boost. Pretty much everything other than that has him losing in straight fights, and even his good feats are diminished a bit due to extremely poor feats that have happened as well.

Overall, I'd say it is pretty on par with Thor during the AvX days.

When did he fight Apollo?

Yup, he certainly did. If I had the scans I'd show you. I hope someone else uploads them. Throughout the comic it implied that the amped Batman wasn't Superman level strength either...so, do you see why I'm saying that it's getting on-par with AvX Thor yet? It may not be there yet, but it isn't far at all.

Supes fought Apollo in an earlier issue of Superman/WonderWoman. Apollo hit him with a ***** slap that sent him reeling into a pool of lava, and then Supes punched Apollo. It seemed like Apollo took the punch better than Supes took the ***** slap. Then Apollo blasted Supes with Sun energy and amped him, and Supes threw him out of the mountain they were in for the win.

Also, if DC is doing things now just because people are complaining on a message board...wow.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
An amped Batman killed him in ONE punch? Lol, scans someone please?

He was just leaping no?

Give me 5 minutes, I have the comic and I will post it. It end up teleporting his essence into a virtual game but yeah, he died.

Originally posted by emporerpants
Supes fought Apollo in an earlier issue of Superman/WonderWoman. Apollo hit him with a ***** slap that sent him reeling into a pool of lava, and then Supes punched Apollo. It seemed like Apollo took the punch better than Supes took the ***** slap. Then Apollo blasted Supes with Sun energy and amped him, and Supes threw him out of the mountain they were in for the win.

Also, if DC is doing things now just because people are complaining on a message board...wow.

Aaaahhhh, that Apollo. I thought you was talking about the other Apollo.

Originally posted by carver9
Give me 5 minutes, I have the comic and I will post it. It end up teleporting his essence into a virtual game but yeah, he died.

Okay, thanks.

Originally posted by emporerpants
Supes fought Apollo in an earlier issue of Superman/WonderWoman. Apollo hit him with a ***** slap that sent him reeling into a pool of lava, and then Supes punched Apollo. It seemed like Apollo took the punch better than Supes took the ***** slap. Then Apollo blasted Supes with Sun energy and amped him, and Supes threw him out of the mountain they were in for the win.

Also, if DC is doing things now just because people are complaining on a message board...wow.

It should be noted that Superman hit Apollo with his best all-out punch or whatever and it didn't really do anything besides knock him off his feet both times IIRC.

Well, we don't really know if it was his best all out punch or not. The only thing we can say for certain is that Apollo handled a punch from Supes better than Supes handled a slap from him. That's bad enough.

Originally posted by emporerpants
Well, we don't really know if it was his best all out punch or not. The only thing we can say for certain is that Apollo handled a punch from Supes better than Supes handled a slap from him. That's bad enough.

Okay, I might have been exaggerating but I specifically remember Superman saying he wasn't going to hold back (Mental blocks and dynamic strength!) or whatever against a God or something of that sort.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Okay, I might have been exaggerating but I specifically remember Superman saying he wasn't going to hold back (Mental blocks and dynamic strength!) or whatever against a God or something of that sort.

Just before the pimp slap.

Originally posted by emporerpants
I guess even "I wank the shi# out of character I'm writing" Pak can't change that.

Lol. On a side note, didn't Pak's first Superman story basically involve a young/inexperienced Clark one-shot Darkseid?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Okay, thanks.

It should be noted that Superman hit Apollo with his best all-out punch or whatever and it didn't really do anything besides knock him off his feet both times IIRC.

I deleted the comic out of my files but it's Batman - Superman #6. Happened during the time both fought Mongul. I have 5 (dont know why when it was boring as hell) and it started when Mongul killed Batman. He was transformed into some type of Super human. I can upload it in about 20 min if you still need me too. Let me know.

Batmans death.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot_zps348c9c9d.jpg.html
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot2_zps96fc1fca.jpg.html
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot3_zps2cdbabbe.jpg.html

Tbf to Superman, he did hurt Apollo:

Although it's Diana's interaction with Apollo that make him look a bit less:
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/fangirl102/Diana%20New/2492070-wonderwoman11c_apollo_beats_up_diana_super_zps76ad9a73.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
I deleted the comic out of my files but it's Batman - Superman #6. Happened during the time both fought Mongul. I have 5 (dont know why when it was boring as hell) and it started when Mongul killed Batman. He was transformed into some type of Super human. I can upload it in about 20 min if you still need me too. Let me know.

Batmans death.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot_zps348c9c9d.jpg.html
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot2_zps96fc1fca.jpg.html
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot3_zps2cdbabbe.jpg.html

It's fine, I'll get it.

Originally posted by carver9
I deleted the comic out of my files

You should make a habbit of uploading that sh1t to mediafire. Or even better, get google drive. Either option's better than deleting a comic which you'll end up needing in the future and will then have to go to the trouble of dling all over again(which may not even work if the original dl link's expired).