Originally posted by emporerpants
So, what other characters do you guys think Supes could rip in half if he thought they were just a mindless raging beast? 😉 I kid Carver, I kid....maybe.
Doomsday defeated some polar bears and a ship. That doesn't put him on Hulk level. He has a lot of growing up to do.
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Originally posted by Galan007
Not arguing otherwise. Just saying that I can see why some people(myself included) might think of Doomed DD as nerfed when compared to some of his past incarnations.
http://i.imgur.com/0O2AyjU.jpg
Which was referenced here.
http://i.imgur.com/X5O5mkL.jpg
"Sufficient to kill you."
So instead of DD being nerfed, Superman was powered up due to not holding back.
Originally posted by abhilegendI think it was a mixture of both, tbh. Why? Because even if he weren't holding back, Nu52 Supes would absolutely not be able to rip H/P DD in half(the thought actually made me lol.) So while Superman certainly stepped outside his 'norm', I definitely do not view Doomed DD in the same light as H/P or Wars DD. Not even close, actually.
So instead of DD being nerfed, Superman was powered up due to not holding back.
But again: this DD was definitely powerful, and Supes shredding him is definitely a great feat.
Originally posted by carver9
👆Can't see Diana slicing through any of the previous incarnations either and even if she did, this Doomsday was hellava damaged afterwards...laying on the ground coughing up blue mucous.
Her weapons have been able to cut/impale characters such as the First Born and even Darkseid... They should do "hellava" damage to DD.
Originally posted by Galan007
I don't mind Superman beating Doomsday--it's the rippage-in-halfage that I have a huge problem with. Superman should not be able to do something like that to any version of DD worth a damn(he could have never hoped to do that to H/P or Wars DD, for example.)That is why I think this version of DD was nerfed--relative to some of his pre-Flashpoint incarnations, at least.
Originally posted by JayDaDon
I agree. Supes ripping anyone in half signifies a 2 to 3 tier power difference.
JayDaDon and Galan brought up some great points that I was thinking about myself. Don't get me wrong this feat was amazing and I don't mind Superman beating Doomsday but ripping him in half like that is kinda disrespectful to Doomsday imo. I understand that this is a Kal who finally cuts loose and goes all out but damn. He was almost out of steam with this epic battle, but the problem stems with him getting the second wind and ripping him apart when he is exhausted himself. A second wind should be a burst of energy found from within to finish the job, not to completely obliterate your opponent like that lol. Also it is true that having the capacity to rip someone in half almost shows that the individual is perhaps a tier or two higher then their opponent since it is difficult to do in comics, especially with two top tier beings. Wouldn't you say that this places Kal slighty above high herald? Again thats not to say if Doomsday was nerfed from his previous incarnations as I speculated. But if not as abhi and emporer stated, which I am not desputing you guys may be correct you, do you think that places Kal slighty higher on the tier list? I'm not taking anything away from Kal, i'm still going to buy this book because the feat is amazing and the art is spectacular.
Originally posted by Galan007
I think it was a mixture of both, tbh. Why? Because even if he weren't holding back, Nu52 Supes would absolutely not be able to rip H/P DD in half(the thought actually made me lol.) So while Superman certainly stepped outside his 'norm', I definitely do not view Doomed DD in the same light as H/P or Wars DD. Not even close, actually.But again: this DD was definitely powerful, and Supes shredding him is definitely a great feat.
Yeah, it was an insane feat. You should see Quan's arguments to lowball the feat. They are downright hilarious.
Here's some ownage.
Now for a Doomsday question!
I'm not sure if this was already asked, but okay so we know this Doomsday isn't at H/P levels but would you guys put Nu Doomsday above DOS Doomsday?
An to be fair I'm willing to bet he'll come back stronger at some point, cause I mean...isn't that his shtick 😛?
Originally posted by YamchaLike emporerpants said: Doomed DD is definitely above DoS DD... By a few tiers, I'd wager.
I'm not sure if this was already asked, but okay so we know this Doomsday isn't at H/P levels but would you guys put Nu Doomsday above DOS Doomsday?
That said, DoS DD is to Doomed DD, what Doomed DD is to H/P DD. Heck, the difference between the latter may be even more substantial than the difference between the former. H/P DD was far more powerful than most people realize--the guy trounced a massively(and I mean MASSIVELY) amped Superman as though he was fodder. The impressiveness of that cannot be forgotten and/or overstated.
So let me see if I'm understanding this.....
Superman is so strong because he ripped apart Doomsday who we know is really strong because he's Superman level in strength and broke Diana's arms who is considered to be strong because she fought 2 Kryptonian's who are considered to be so strong because they fought Superman and are thought to be Superman level?
Originally posted by Galan007
Like emporerpants said: Doomed DD is definitely above DoS DD... By a few tiers, I'd wager.That said, DoS DD is to Doomed DD, what Doomed DD is to H/P DD. Heck, the difference between the latter may be even more substantial than the difference between the former. H/P DD was far more powerful than most people realize--the guy trounced a massively(and I mean MASSIVELY) amped Superman as though he was fodder. The impressiveness of that cannot be forgotten and/or overstated.
Why is he definitely above DOS Doomsday by a few levels?
He's powerful sure, but what is that based on?
