Character Ownage

Started by JayDaDon5,121 pages

If you disagree with what Marvel is doing stop giving them money. Apparently they're starting to get the message...

Lol @ Anglican.

Originally posted by Cogito
At best, it's cultural insensitivity. "Thor" doesn't sound like a real name to Americans, so it's easy to dismiss it. Most characters' superhero names are titles - Superman, Batman, Iron Man, Captain America - all titles. Thor is not. Thor is a name, even if it isn't an Anglican one.

Would you think it was stupid if someone became the next John Constantine? Of course you would, because John Constantine is someone's name - and its a name that you immediately identify being as such. If someone was the next "John", that would be stupid, right? Right??

For me its not about culturally sensitivity or anything, it's just ****ing retarded.

Joe lost his sword so the next person to pick up his sword is now Joe.

Not a title, not a rank. Just his name. Just a regular ****en first name.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
If you disagree with what Marvel is doing stop giving them money. Apparently they're starting to get the message...

Haven't bought a comic since the first Uncanny Avengers I think...

Originally posted by krisblaze
For me its not about culturally sensitivity or anything, it's just ****ing retarded.

Joe lost his sword so the next person to pick up his sword is now Joe.

Not a title, not a rank. Just his name. Just a regular ****en first name.

The cultural insensitivity is only because it would never happen if Thor was named "Joe". But he's named Thor, and it's ok to treat it like it's not a name because it's not 'murican.

U guys are overthinking this. Obviously Thor is more than just a name in the Marvel U as per Marvel/Aaron.

Anyways... Thor (Jane) is a beast. Well more like Mjolnir is a beast. Clearly it favors her a lot and has performed things for her that it never did for Odinson.

Even Odinson has said on record she wields it far better then him 😬

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
U guys are overthinking this. Obviously Thor is more than just a name in the Marvel U as per Marvel/Aaron.

Sigh...nobody is debating what is the case. Only that it's really dumb, and mildly racist.

Midly racist??

But its feminism. I thought feminism was the manager of race issues. Thats become an umbrella term for all social issues afterall.

Racist? Lol... That shiet ain't racist. For one Thor is not a regular name. It's closer to a title Imo considering it was the representative name of a major deity for what, hundreds maybe thousands of years??

U guys are over thinking this.

Yes...mildly racist against Nordic people...for reasons already mentioned.

Edit:

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Racist? Lol... That shiet ain't racist. For one Thor is not a regular name. It's closer to a title Imo considering it was the representative name of a major deity for what, hundreds maybe thousands of years??

U guys are over thinking this.


Sure it is. Thor is absolutely a name. Just because you don't see many Americans named Thor doesn't mean it's not a name. It's still a name used in Scandanavian countries. Look no further than the mountain from GoT (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haf%C3%BE%C3%B3r_J%C3%BAl%C3%ADus_Bj%C3%B6rnsson)

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Racist? Lol... That shiet ain't racist. For one Thor is not a regular name. It's closer to a title Imo considering it was the representative name of a major deity for what, hundreds maybe thousands of years??

U guys are over thinking this.

Jesus.

That's racist.

Its a name that thor willingly relinquished.

There, happy?

To be fair that's only the same writers wanting to put she-thor over MAKING Thor relinquish his name, so it really shouldn't alleviate said issues that much.

Originally posted by Cogito
Yes...mildly racist against Nordic people...for reasons already mentioned.

Edit:

Sure it is. Thor is absolutely a name. Just because you don't see many Americans named Thor doesn't mean it's not a name. It's still a name used in Scandanavian countries. Look no further than the mountain from GoT (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haf%C3%BE%C3%B3r_J%C3%BAl%C3%ADus_Bj%C3%B6rnsson)


I'm not saying it's not a name normally used. Of course it can be used by regular folks. But in this particular instance, there is an emphasis on the other worldly connotation as in major ancient sky god. And it's in a comic book.

Anyways... Aaron, keep em coming. I'm on board for the long haul.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I'm not saying it's not a name normally used. Of course it can be used by regular folks. But in this particular instance, there is an emphasis on the other worldly connotation as in major ancient sky god. And it's in a comic book.

Point is Thor is his name - whether he's a God or not. If you want to give him a title, make it "Thunderer" or something.

When Thor became King Thor he didn't take the "title" Odin. He was just Thor Odinson, All-Father (that last one is a title).

She is symbolism for the concept of a woman being able to take a man's place entirely and rise to the occassion. Except she has done more than that, she made the man obsolete.

I.e. women are better at men at everything, even being men.

Knamsayn? Hence she is Thor in name too.

Horseshit i know. haermm

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Racist? Lol... That shiet ain't racist. For one Thor is not a regular name. It's closer to a title Imo considering it was the representative name of a major deity for what, hundreds maybe thousands of years??

U guys are over thinking this.

Not in America. I've met more than one Thor here though, and they've all surprisingly been male. 🤔

You're free to your opinion of course, if you enjoy the comics, good on you because that is the point of then after all.

But its not a title, at least its not supposed to be. Thor wasn't born "Odinson", alone. He was Thor Odinson, first name and family name.
He didn't get the name Thor after lifting the hammer, otherwise yes, it'd be for all intentions and purposes a title.

This really isn't any different than if Hera replaced Zeus, and made everyone call her Zeus. Zeus is even more uncommon than Thor I'd say, yet everyone should agree its not intended to be for women.

I would equally turned off by this if a guy took Wonder Woman's position and demanded he be called Diana while Wondy had to go only by her family name.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Racist? Lol... That shiet ain't racist. For one Thor is not a regular name. It's closer to a title Imo considering it was the representative name of a major deity for what, hundreds maybe thousands of years??

U guys are over thinking this.

I know a dozen guys named Tor.