Character Ownage

Started by Digi5,121 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
For all you nerds who think comics are consistent just stop. Try to enjoy them but stop trying to catalogue and make sense of it. It's fiction in the hands of multiple writers. A weaker guy can be harder to kill and less powerful. Thanos is supreme like I have always said.

A prescient and excellent statement for mainstream comics as a whole. And the last sentence.

The Tremendous Trump:

....facepalm

Originally posted by Digi
A prescient and excellent statement for mainstream comics as a whole. And the last sentence.
I saved the best for last.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Doom is some loser who might get a fox film Thanos is the grandest villain in the most successful cinematic venture of all time. Doom is low level compared to the big boss, Thanos.

Go hide in your movies forum Quan. People who read are talking here.

kangbiscuits

Originally posted by Bentley
Go hide in your movies forum Quan. People who read are talking here.

kangbiscuits

Thanos killed them all hand to hand. It's great that on every front Thanos is the big bad. The movies are the most important when we are talking about mainstream since that's what non comic book readers will be exposed to. Thanos reigns supreme.

Being Worthy> everything else.

Wanted to reiterate this:

Not only could Kyle Rayner(Kyle-f*cking-Rayner) barely manage to control Hal's ring/willpower, but as evident by Kyle's dialogue, the ring actually started asserting Hal's will into Kyle's own subconscious... Given Kyle's status as one of *the* greatest(and most powerful) Lanterns of all time, I find this absolutely staggering.

*And mind you, Hal actually willed his ring over to Kyle last issue... So it's not even like Kyle is trying to bypass the ring's barriers/feedback against letting an unauthorized user wield it... The ring is just THAT damn powerful.

tbh i'm not crazy about some of the recent happenings in dc as regards their characters. it has the feel of a return to the OP characters that everyone derided for years. instead of gaining respect for the character of gl and hal, those types of things actually cause me to LOSE respect for the character. it seems to create a sense that everything he does NOT accomplish, is PIS. these high end outlier type feats SEEM to be happening more and more in dc. in marvel too, but more in dc. it's getting harder to suspend disbelief when heroes fail in more normal circumstances. 😬

Injustice:

The Terrifics:

*So after getting dumped into the Dark Multiverse, the Terrifics discover a living planetoid... And on it they discover last recording from none other than Tom Strong.

Originally posted by Galan007
Bro, Galactus was wearing a Mad Max cloak, and was literally running at Thanos with a giant f*cking gun.

...He deserved to be slaughtered so easily. 👆

Solicits for next issue look interesting, though:

Damn, Surfer with Mjolnir f*cking shit UP.

Forget the Infinity Gauntlet, now I know why Thanos and the Grandmaster wanted Ultimate Mjolnir so badly. If you aren't a white, blonde male, holding Mjolnir gives you real d*ck swinging rights in the Marvel Universe.

Oh wait, nvm. Hydra Captain America kept the entire Mutant Nation in check at the threat of him lifting Mjolnir again.

Can Thor please get his hammer back Marvel? Why is everyone BUT him using it?

🙁

It feels like such a violation. Being a Thor fan right now is like being Bran in church, and having a creepy Priest slide his hands down your pants. It's different and you might like it, but you know it's wrong, and no one seems to care.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I don't think they will retain this under a normal yellow sun [i.e. Earth], otherwise Superman would be walking around with all of the various sun-amps/sun-dips he's had. A.k.a. they're basically sun-amping to normal Superman-level, while they'll be sub-Superman in normal conditions.

I think the point was that they need more time under Sunlight. Eventually, with enough saturation and/or time, they would operate under Earth's Sun with Superman's power level. At least, I think that's the point.

Makes sense, Superman landed on Earth as a infant. He's had decades under the Sun, he GREW up on Earth.

Not that this has really been taken into account with named and big Kryptonian threats like Zod.

Originally posted by leonidas
tbh i'm not crazy about some of the recent happenings in dc as regards their characters. it has the feel of a return to the OP characters that everyone derided for years. instead of gaining respect for the character of gl and hal, those types of things actually cause me to LOSE respect for the character. it seems to create a sense that everything he does NOT accomplish, is PIS. these high end outlier type feats SEEM to be happening more and more in dc. in marvel too, but more in dc. it's getting harder to suspend disbelief when heroes fail in more normal circumstances. 😬
I would understand this sentiment, if Hal didn't just get the shit kicked out of him by Zod this story-arc. The villains are just as formidable as the heroes, so there's not a problem. It's like saying that Flash is too OP - he is, and has been for decades now, but he has villains like Eobard, Hunter, Abra Kadabra etc. to match him, while also having lower villains that are not as high stakes like the Rogues.

Did you ever feel this way with Thor? Surfer? Thanos? Did Thanos' current storyline make you lose respect for him?

Originally posted by leonidas
tbh i'm not crazy about some of the recent happenings in dc as regards their characters. it has the feel of a return to the OP characters that everyone derided for years. instead of gaining respect for the character of gl and hal, those types of things actually cause me to LOSE respect for the character. it seems to create a sense that everything he does NOT accomplish, is PIS. these high end outlier type feats SEEM to be happening more and more in dc. in marvel too, but more in dc. it's getting harder to suspend disbelief when heroes fail in more normal circumstances. 😬
I agree on average, but in this case the discrepancy between Hal and Kyle actually makes sense, imo.

After all, when Hal forged his ring he had literally become a living construct of pure, unharnessed willpower(thanks to Krona's Gauntlet) -- and he poured every iota of that energy/willpower into his ring. It is vastly more powerful than any other Lantern ring... Possibly as powerful as Krona's Gauntlet itself:

I'm actually glad that Kyle *wasn't* able to interface with Hal's ring right off the bat -- given its power, it should require an acclimation period for even the most seasoned Lanterns, imo.

I have no idea what's going in the Green Lantern Universe anymore. I'm going to pretend everything ended at the Sinestro Corps War.

Originally posted by leonidas
tbh i'm not crazy about some of the recent happenings in dc as regards their characters. it has the feel of a return to the OP characters that everyone derided for years. instead of gaining respect for the character of gl and hal, those types of things actually cause me to LOSE respect for the character. it seems to create a sense that everything he does NOT accomplish, is PIS. these high end outlier type feats SEEM to be happening more and more in dc. in marvel too, but more in dc. it's getting harder to suspend disbelief when heroes fail in more normal circumstances. 😬

I don't see the big deal. Hal has a ring made of pure will when he was on Green Lantern Roids. It's not his ring, and yet Kyle is still functioning but there is still some overlap.

All Lanterns are different. Kyle = Hal > Joh/Guy in my book.

With Hal they've been pretty consistent. They are pegging him to be > lanterns. He's the main lantern so it's understandable.
Then he goes up against Orion or Zod. Heirarchies still remain.

Originally posted by Galan007
Thanos (2/2):

...Damn. 😑


Galactus gets zero respect these days. Surfer with mjolnir is more powerful than him?

This is just BS.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
With Hal they've been pretty consistent. They are pegging him to be > lanterns. He's the main lantern so it's understandable.
Then he goes up against Orion or Zod. Heirarchies still remain.

Actually he did far better against the metal golems than Orion did.

Hal is going to have a rematch with Zod soon. Not that it shows Hal as less powerful, kryptoninans are just that powerful these days.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Jeez, that Thanos book was full of...um...a lot. Everything made sense EXCEPT Thanos killing Galactus so easy. That was really weird and had no logic behind it unless Galactus went centuries without feeding but even then, he should be at least as powerful as Thanos.

Herald Ghost Rider being more powerful than current Thanos and easily taking care of the Annihilation Wave, and King Thanos being as powerful or above but not being able to kill Frank Castle is also logical.

So King Thanos with Twilight Sword vs. Surfer with Mjolnir. Should be interesting. I like that it actually took Surfer a few hundred millions years to become worthy. Makes way more sense than Jane. At least some people remember that lifting Mjolnir is suppose to be incredibly special that only a handful in comics can do....

I'm not a big fan of these "______ kills the Marvel Universe"-type of one-shot books. They're a fun read, but there's always something there that doesn't quite add up, and it's typically the power scaling and characterization. In this case, we see Thanos one-shot Galactus, but states that he can't destroy a Ghost Rider. Later, we're supposed to believe the Silver Surfer with Mjolnir will provide a greater challenge to Thanos than even Galactus, who for some reason charged at Thanos with a gun the size of an aircraft carrier, instead of just blasting Thanos with his own Power Cosmic.

The Punisher's deals with Mephisto and Galactus were interesting, yet was completely out of character after being reborn. You could have told me that was Deadpool as the new Ghost Rider, and I wouldn't have questioned it.

Again, fun to read, but rarely satisfying.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Damn, Surfer with Mjolnir f*cking shit UP.

Forget the Infinity Gauntlet, now I know why Thanos and the Grandmaster wanted Ultimate Mjolnir so badly. If you aren't a white, blonde male, holding Mjolnir gives you real d*ck swinging rights in the Marvel Universe.

Oh wait, nvm. Hydra Captain America kept the entire Mutant Nation in check at the threat of him lifting Mjolnir again.

Can Thor please get his hammer back Marvel? Why is everyone BUT him using it?

🙁

It feels like such a violation. Being a Thor fan right now is like being Bran in church, and having a creepy Priest slide his hands down your pants. It's different and you might like it, but you know it's wrong, and no one seems to care.


😂

Originally posted by Galan007
*So after getting dumped into the Dark Multiverse, the Terrifics discover a living planetoid... And on it they discover last recording from none other than Tom Strong.

Well that's delightful. Some crossovers work better than others, and that reveal seems to fit.