Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it wasn't.The recap of the issue never alludes that Odin is weakened.
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--_u5IG1Z2--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/amleeze5vs41fwhjc2ag.jpgSo Thor will beat Odin if he goes all out, eh?
I'm referring to the part about the Phoenix. I'm not going down the Odin is weakened discussion in this thread.
Yes, he probably would under Aaron. It would be an uphill battle where Odin was on a different level, but he'd find a way. Kind of the point of this story.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Jane is to Thor, what Dr. Doom was to Surfer.Showing incompetent small gods from small worlds how to get shit done.
I almost shed a tear at Betasons followers trying to transfer her competence to him.
Such a napoleon complex.
Thor Odinson with Mjolnir was at least as impressive if not more so then Jane in terms of showings.
Originally posted by abhilegendMangog is more powerful than Odin/Phoenix and yet Jane is knocking his teeth out.
Good thing she held back against Odin.
Imagine if Superman had this type of showing against Darkseid. Hell, Galan was praising Superman for handling Cyborg Superman who was weakened and put Superman above Herald tier because of it but yet we have Jane doing good against someone that would rip Cyborg Superman in half with ease. With that said, I ask, Superman fans, does this put Jane above Herald tier or does this only apply to Superman when he does good against people "in his tier"?
Originally posted by carver9
Imagine if Superman had this type of showing against Darkseid. Hell, Galan was praising Superman for handling Cyborg Superman who was weakened and put Superman above Herald tier because of it but yet we have Jane doing good against someone that would rip Cyborg Superman in half with ease. With that said, I ask, Superman fans, does this put Jane above Herald tier or does this only apply to Superman when he does good against people "in his tier"?
And I wonder if it goes both ways.
Jane is having the greatest battle feat of her career, defeating a guy not even the All Mother, All Father and Odinson combined could beat. Which is all well and good, because we are drawing to the end of her story. It is the heroic end, the final sacrifice.
I wonder if we are to be consistent, and apply this to the end of Superboy Prime's story, when the Teen Titans heroically banded together to defeat him at the end of the villain's story.
Ah well.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Old Thanos was beating him down before he summoned mjolnir.There is no indication that he has absorbed Fallen One power.
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ABHI, you're trolling. It's obvious Mjlonir AMPED Surfer to the point that he can contend with these two Thanos's. That is the only explanation. If he could not do it before and he is doing it now, it's because Mjlonir took him to a new level. Just like Superman said when he grabbed Mjlonir, "I've never felt power like this before".
Originally posted by DarkSaint85lol
And I wonder if it goes both ways.Jane is having the greatest battle feat of her career, defeating a guy not even the All Mother, All Father and Odinson combined could beat. Which is all well and good, because we are drawing to the end of her story. It is the heroic end, the final sacrifice.
I wonder if we are to be consistent, and apply this to the end of Superboy Prime's story, when the Teen Titans heroically banded together to defeat him at the end of the villain's story.
Ah well.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And I wonder if it goes both ways.Jane is having the greatest battle feat of her career, defeating a guy not even the All Mother, All Father and Odinson combined could beat. Which is all well and good, because we are drawing to the end of her story. It is the heroic end, the final sacrifice.
I wonder if we are to be consistent, and apply this to the end of Superboy Prime's story, when the Teen Titans heroically banded together to defeat him at the end of the villain's story.
Ah well.
When it involves Superboy Prime, does people even look at that because majority of the time, people are giving him advantages over trans tier beings even though he have that showing. Look at the Thanos vs Superboy Prime thread.
Also, even if she is dying and this is her last stand, lol, this still doesn't take away from the ft just like it doesn't take away from Prime getting his head caved in by the Titans. Jane have enough fts proving she is above anyone in the Herald tier... that's IF we take the approach everyone tends to take when posting scans every week of what someone have achieved on a consistent basis. I can point out some fts that people have been throwing out and compare it to what Jane has done and Jane ft would lay baby crap all over it.
Originally posted by carver9
When it involves Superboy Prime, does people even look at that because majority of the time, people are giving him advantages over trans tier beings even though he have that showing. Look at the Thanos vs Superboy Prime thread.
What about you?
Do you take it into account? Even though it's exactly the same as here - the end of their particular story?
SBP was destined to lose. As tough as he is, he's the villain.
Jane is destined to win. As tough as Mangog is, he's the villain.
If you take Mangogs defeat into account (as you should; we can't deny it happened) we have to take plot into account as well.
And we should apply it equally to SBPs defeat.
So I ask again. Is SBPs defeat by the Titans a low showing for him....or a high showing for the Titans due to plot?
Originally posted by carver9
Imagine if Superman had this type of showing against Darkseid. Hell, Galan was praising Superman for handling Cyborg Superman who was weakened and put Superman above Herald tier because of it but yet we have Jane doing good against someone that would rip Cyborg Superman in half with ease. With that said, I ask, Superman fans, does this put Jane above Herald tier or does this only apply to Superman when he does good against people "in his tier"?
How would Mangog rip Henshaw in half? He did not do it against War Thor or Heimdall. Or even Odinson.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm referring to the part about the Phoenix. I'm not going down the Odin is weakened discussion in this thread.
Good, because there is no such discussion.
Odin is not weakened.
Yes, he probably would under Aaron. It would be an uphill battle where Odin was on a different level, but he'd find a way. Kind of the point of this story.
Except he did not look at another level against Jane. Or Mangog where he did as well as Odinson did.
Such a napoleon complex.
Thor Odinson with Mjolnir was at least as impressive if not more so then Jane in terms of showings.
Show us where he knocks Mangog teeth out then after Mangog finished off Odin.
