Originally posted by carver9I'm lost. Why isn't hulk more angry? Considering banners dad is responsible for hulks birth in a figurative and literal sense he should be damn near what he was against onslaught
"You don't scare me... you scare Banner, not me (Hulk still stuttering)". He then ask him to tell him who brought him back OR he will smash him... hes obviously still pissing himself and even admits Banner was still scared.https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/39287310/Screenshot_20180905-201855_Chrome.jpg.html
Hulk clearly wasnt trying to take him out. He was trying to get him to talk which is the reason he OR I will smash you.
Hulk was born from Bruce's anger and inner trauma, mostly caused by his Dad. I think, Brian Banner would probably scare the Hulk more than he would scare Bruce.
Aside from Thor potentially getting beat down (Hulk just injected a dose of Sasquatch gamma radiation into his penis but it's still going to sting) with the Avengers, this has been the most interesting Hulk book in forever imo. I'm really loving it. Tbh, I think bringing in the larger Marvel Universe is a mistake. The first few issues dealing with the monster aspect of the Hulk are awesome.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus👆
Hulk was born from Bruce's anger and inner trauma, mostly caused by his Dad. I think, Brian Banner would probably scare the Hulk more than he would scare Bruce.Aside from Thor potentially getting beat down (Hulk just injected a dose of Sasquatch gamma radiation into his penis but it's still going to sting) with the Avengers, this has been the most interesting Hulk book in forever imo. I'm really loving it. Tbh, I think bringing in the larger Marvel Universe is a mistake. The first few issues dealing with the monster aspect of the Hulk are awesome.
Originally posted by HueyFreeman
I'm lost. Why isn't hulk more angry? Considering banners dad is responsible for hulks birth in a figurative and literal sense he should be damn near what he was against onslaught
When he found out it was his dad, he was on the floor ground with his hand over his face in near terror. Never seen Hulk that afraid in any comic. He was TERRIFIED, to the point of stuttering, etc...
No matter how much power you have, if someone have traumatized you since birth, that fear will always be there.
@KM...
This is fear, being terrified. No matter how you look at this fight, the fear Hulk had here played a huge role in how the fight went.
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Before this, Hulk was working him and yes, blood was coming out of SAS mouth. At one point, he couldnt even get off the ground after a hit from Hulk. Hulk wouldve still been pounding on him if he didnt acknowledge he was Banners father.
Originally posted by carver9
@KM...This is fear, being terrified. No matter how you look at this fight, the fear Hulk had here played a huge role in how the fight went.
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/39315374/Screenshot_20180909-231055.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/39315375/Screenshot_20180909-231111.jpg.htmlBefore this, Hulk was working him and yes, blood was coming out of SAS mouth. At one point, he couldnt even get off the ground after a hit from Hulk. Hulk wouldve still been pounding on him if he didnt acknowledge he was Banners father.
It did. No one is debating that. But not at the end when he caught the punch. as he was even going savage mode. But before? 100% Also as mentioned several times Brian wasn’t even really fighting and wanted to talk and more mentally torture him more then anything
Now do I think Sasquatch would have won if he wasn’t distracted by the security guard*shrugs* Sure hulk would have come back from that but he was in serious trouble
Maybe next issue it’s revealed the one below all amped him or something.
I'd listen to Carver. If there's one person who knows the dangers of an angry father, my guess would be Carver.
Everytime his dad came home from buying cigarettes, it was a household of terror. That's primal fear instilled in you since birth. Luckily he only came home about 5 times from the store but it still sticks. Even now when he looks in the mirror, he sees himself growing into an older 32 year old and jumps at the similarities to his father.
But in all seriousness, I don't see why it's hard to admit fear played a factor there. Even shock alone is enough to gain a little edge. Luckily my dad is a big pussy, but I'd still jump back if all of the sudden I saw his mullet in the mirror.
Or if I saw genital warts staring directly in my face. Hell, even a piece of pizza in the mirror. Just something you don't expect is enough to gain an edge in a fight. But in Hulk's case we saw pure terror. Quite possible it carried through the entire fight.
Here’s the full scene. Clearly Hulk was recovered. Now there could be a debate that going savage made him weaker?? But he was losing control with his rage and he tried to smash and it backfired
As mentioned maybe it’s revealed later the one below all amped him as sure that wasn’t Brian talking
Savage is a pussy compared to Immortal Hulk though.
I think both were there to fight, but Brian knew how to gain an edge. I don't think there was an intended power difference, it was just how he "won".
Now with that said, let's get back onto fear. I don't know what you're afraid of, but you are Canadian so let's give er a go:
Raw hamburgers
Dead geese
Natives
Seasoning salt in your poutine
Ah... let's just play it safe and say your uncle touched your butthole.
So anyway, let's say you're fighting Ted Nugent in a Walmart parking lot. It's going pretty well, you're landing some good shots and so is he. All of the sudden Ted's face morphs into Uncle Mungi and his voice changes. He gets the upper hand and spins you around. You get angry, sure you do - no grown man wants to get molested afterall, but that doesn't mean you can't still be afraid. That doesn't mean that fear still can't be affecting your subconscious even while you're full of rage. Just because you're angry that doesn't mean that little mental edge of fear can't still be penetrating your mind. Your uncle - let's call him Ted Mungi - no matter how small you feel it, is still impacting you throughout and always will. Even after he dies from old age, he is still there. You think in that one burst of rage brought on by pure fear deletes the fear entirely? Bro
It is a very prevalent psychological advantage. Look at boxing for instance of people that benefitted from this. Mike Tyson, Foreman, or even Anderson Silva, etc. We already saw Hulk in a rage state be completely terrified from Brian. It's unlikely this dissipated completely.
Now again, I don't think this was a showcase of power winning out. I think it reasonable to assume both were equal. But I do believe it perfectly acceptable that this is why he won. Whoever would win under different circumstances wasn't made clear, but with even the smallest advantage, I think either would beat the other.
If this all makes sense.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Here’s the full scene. Clearly Hulk was recovered. Now there could be a debate that going savage made him weaker?? But he was losing control with his rage and he tried to smash and it backfiredAs mentioned maybe it’s revealed later the one below all amped him as sure that wasn’t Brian talking
Off topic question for you...where do you rate elder gods in comparison to skyfathers?
Makes sense 👆
again not saying Sasquatch won or would have won if wasn’t distracted, but don’t agree he was so terrified or afraid which completely throws that scene out th window. It can be argued his rage threw him off his “game” which can be valid. Just as you mentioned don’t think there was a physical disadvantage at the end which was argued was the case. Hulk recovered and was even venomous. His speech and eyes were going into savage mode which is why I asked if that maybe weakened him? if it did that’s interesting as earlier he took multiple punches (4-5) from hulk and they weren’t doing much but one good kick and a punch Had more of an effect. Does that mean he was putting more into his shoots? If so that would appear he wouldn’t be as impacted by fear ie weakened. *shrugs*
Overall Hulk was portrayed as stronger for sure. I was impressed by the damage soak on Sasquatch
it might be revealed he gave him a boost in power or something later on. Sure we will get more details next issue
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Only reason i ask is cuz id rather it had been regular sas with no tanaraq amp losing to banner than vice versa. But yea you're right
Well it might have been regular Sasquatch as tanaraq is currently dead. So he shouldn’t have the amp. However it might be revealed the one below all piggybacking off of Brian banner also amped Sasquatch
Wait and see I guess
