Character Ownage

Started by MrMind5,121 pages

phil finally got someone that he can debate to on the similar level but from the opposite side

it's astounding how much heavy hitters marvel camp lacks since master's departure

Originally posted by Philosophía
It's not a personal attack, certainly not regarding the present. You've had a self-imposed 7 years sabbatical -- I'm giving the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't hold the positions abhi is referring from early 2010s, the same way many of us don't regarding various things.

I mean -- just to be safe, do you think in a hand to hand fight, in terms of speed, Thor is closer to Wolverine or Superman?

It seems you're addressing a poster I've currently chosen not to address. So if you want to discuss that with him, go for it. If you want to address me on this topic, then tell me what you're really trying to say when it comes to how the speed of thought is quantified when compared to the speed of light in comics.

There's no need to get defensive about this, I'm not the one who brought up your posts from a decade ago, nor do I hold you in the present based on what you said back then. Which is why I'm asking the question, to see where you are currently - do you think in a hand to hand fight, in terms of speed, Thor is closer to Wolverine or Superman?

I've said all I've had to say regarding the speed of thought in the previous page.

Originally posted by Philosophía
There's no need to get defensive about this, I'm not the one who brought up your posts from a decade ago, nor do I hold you in the present based on what you said back then. Which is why I'm asking the question, to see where you are currently - do you think in a hand to hand fight, in terms of speed, Thor is closer to Wolverine or Superman?
Not sure what in my post was defensive. I didn't bring up my posts from decades ago either. So like I said before, it seems like you're addressing someone else and not me.
Originally posted by Philosophía
I've said all I've had to say regarding the speed of thought in the previous page.
And I gave that part of your post a thumbs up. But, whatever, this is all my fault I guess.

Originally posted by MrMind
phil finally got someone that he can debate to on the similar level but from the opposite side

it's astounding how much heavy hitters marvel camp lacks since master's departure

you're getting your pink eye all over the ownage thread.

Move it to Questions & Discussion.

Originally posted by ODG
Not sure what in my post was defensive. I didn't bring up my posts from decades ago either. So like I said before, it seems like you're addressing someone else and not me.

And I gave that part of your post a thumbs up. But, whatever, this is all my fault I guess.

But the question is addressed to you, not him, to see if [and how] you've changed your mind. If you don't want to answer it, it's fine -- I was just curious.

Nobody's at fault for anything, nothing even happened -- I'm not trying to set a trap to expose something here. The fact that we agreed should even point to that.

ODG is worried his boy pussy won't survive this night on KMC.

Originally posted by Philosophía
But the question is addressed to you, not him, to see if [and how] you've changed your mind. If you don't want to answer it, it's fine -- I was just curious.
The question... that came after the comment... but ok. Smurph's right, after all. Whatever disagreement we may potentially have, this ain't the thread for it.

You should like... probably make a thread comparing Wolverine & street levelers to Thor or something.

It came after the comment because he pointed out a position you had a decade ago. I asked to see what position you currently have now, to perhaps show that you cannot judge people from opinions they've had then -- but it is possible that you have the same position and, thus, the question. You chose not to answer -- which is ok, I'm not going to assume because of that you'd still have the same opinion. But maybe you do.

Ah, so you're bitter about me due to that thread? If you want to compare Thor in hand to hand speed to street levelers & Superman -- officially, in a battlezone, with mods judging/verdict on the line [to get an actual ruling in the forum guidelines], I'm all up for it, by the way.

Galan, Pr, Bada -- we'd have lots of fun.

Well, by your comments it appears the actual battlezone challenge is whether Thor is closer to Wolverine than Superman in combat speed. Ok.

That can be a loaded question full of tangents. But less so if you really want to bear down on it by announcing what character is the median between Wolverine and Superman. So?

I say Thor is closer to street levelers than Superman, in terms of h2h speed.

You say Thor is closer to Superman than street levelers, in terms of h2h speed.

The judges will decide which is the accurate position. A rather simple proposition.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I say Thor is closer to street levelers than Superman, in terms of h2h speed.

You say Thor is closer to Superman than street levelers, in terms of h2h speed.

The judges will decide which is the accurate position. A rather simple proposition.

I don't need walls of text or another non-starter of a battlezone.

Your question is amply refined by pointing to a median character. And you know it.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Speed of thought

Why are people trying to attach a specific meaning to this? It's a figurative expression.

It can instantaneous, or it can be as low as 0.5 m/s.

^ You'd have to ask each poster their own reasons. As for me, I was simply supporting Sin I AM's post that throughout comics, sometimes the speed of thought is quantified. Sometimes speed of thought is slower than speed of light. Once, I've seen them equated. A whole lot more, I've seen speed of thought quantified as faster than the speed of light. So it's arguable that it's not just a figurative expression given the context.

Originally posted by ODG
I don't need walls of text or another non-starter of a battlezone.

Your question is amply refined by pointing to a median character. And you know it.

There's an interval with two points -- on the left side there's street levelers and on the right side there's Superman. The argument would be where, within that interval, Thor sits in terms of h2h speed -- closer to the left, or to the right. The judges will determine the placement based on the arguments presented for the left end of the axis [street levelers], right hand of the axis [Superman] and Thor.

^ Ahem, Wolverine:

Originally posted by Philosophía
I mean -- just to be safe, do you think in a hand to hand fight, in terms of speed, Thor is closer to Wolverine or Superman?
Clearly, my request to bear down on this battlezone challenge has nothing to do with my desire to prevent you from moving the goalposts mid-battlezone, clearly. Because that's not what you literally tried to do just now.

I'm the one invited you to the specific battlezone which is not limited to Wolverine:

If you want to compare Thor in hand to hand speed to street levelers & Superman -- officially, in a battlezone, with mods judging/verdict on the line [to get an actual ruling in the forum guidelines], I'm all up for it, by the way.

The question regarding Wolverine and Superman has nothing to do with the battlezone invitation - it was inspired by the post abhi quoted to get ballpark of your current opinion see if you're still OneDumbGo, from 2011.

This is going nowhere, as always. I have to admit -- I'm a bit disappointed you're the same guy.

^ I commented on a character statement about Jon Kent and the idea of the speed of thought.

You came in talking about Thor fans who hold "moronic positions they've had a decade ago" and after I gave you a thumbs up for the other half of your post, you assured me the first part of that post wasn't some sort of personal attack.

You then asked in subsequent, separate posts, "I mean -- just to be safe, do you think in a hand to hand fight, in terms of speed, Thor is closer to Wolverine or Superman?" and "Which is why I'm asking the question, to see where you are currently - do you think in a hand to hand fight, in terms of speed, Thor is closer to Wolverine or Superman?"

Then you challenged me to a battlezone.

But I'm at fault for asking who the median is between them because I am not interested in debating Thor's combat speed + Wolverine's all street-levelers combat speed + Superman's combat speed... ??? I didn't mean to utterly defuse your attempted bz challenge and its subsequent goalpost moving before it even started but, y'know, I kinda did.

Sorry to disappoint you.

Originally posted by ODG
I am not interested in debating Thor's combat speed + Wolverine's all street-levelers combat speed + Superman's combat speed... ??? I didn't mean to utterly defuse your attempted bz challenge and its subsequent goalpost moving before it even started but, y'know, I kinda did.
Comparing Thor on a scale from street levelers to Superman was what the battlezone challenge was. If you're not interested -- it is perfectly fine.

You're attributing ulterior motives to me regarding personal attacks, when I disagreed with abhi. I'm going to say this as clear as possible -- I'm not judging you for the positions you've had in 2011. I'm not digging any of your old posts, because they don't matter. I wouldn't care if somebody says I had a moronic opinion 10 or 15 years ago -- I probably did. And I wouldn't go rabid if they'd ask me if I have the same opinion.

Why are you the way that you are? Can't you just talk like a normal person? Would you talk to me like a normal person if we never talk about Superman or Thor again?

This man said "can you talk to me like a normal person". Lmao