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Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Faster than thought speed

https://ibb.co/0BtPT8D

So faster than electricity as that's basically what thought speed is. Not really a feat someone who consistently operates faster than light and beyond.

I think some writers portray speed of thought as instantaneous because it's mentioned alot

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I think some writers portray speed of thought as instantaneous because it's mentioned alot
In my experience, this is generally true. But more specifically, I've seen the speed of thought being portrayed as being superior to the speed of light also.

But we've seen Flash himself state that he's far faster than someone being able to formulate a thought physically and we've also seen Flash state that he's way slower than the speed of thought.

This looks like a contradiction. But I think you can distinguish these disparate notions. The physical formulation of a thought is not necessarily insurmountable to superspeedsters. But the speed of thought itself is instantaneous and superior to the speed of light.

It's like the difference between Professor X sitting around and Professor X in his psychic projection form. The former may be limited by his brain's neurons but when separated from the brain, the telepathic action/attack/projection is virtually instantaneous.

So that comment about Superboy, if we take it with full faith and credit, is probably more the former rather than a generalization on how fast the speed of thought is.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I think some writers portray speed of thought as instantaneous because it's mentioned alot
Originally posted by ODG
In my experience, this is generally true. But more specifically, I've seen the speed of thought being portrayed as being superior to the speed of light also.

But we've seen Flash himself state that he's far faster than someone being able to formulate a thought physically and we've also seen Flash state that he's way slower than the speed of thought.

This looks like a contradiction. But I think you can distinguish these disparate notions. The physical formulation of a thought is not necessarily insurmountable to superspeedsters. But the speed of thought itself is instantaneous and superior to the speed of light.

It's like the difference between Professor X sitting around and Professor X in his psychic projection form. The former may be limited by his brain's neurons but when separated from the brain, the telepathic action/attack/projection is virtually instantaneous.

So that comment about Superboy, if we take it with full faith and credit, is probably more the former rather than a generalization on how fast the speed of thought is.


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Rule of thumb, when it's Thor, speed of thought is faster than the speed of light. When it's someone else, it's slower.

Originally posted by ODG
Thor has FTL reflexes and has reacted faster than thought. Superman might be also but he's not Flash.

Speed of thought at range -telepathy, sues fields etc. I could see being faster depending on the distance because they just happen without actually needing to travel.

Speed of thought = actual reaction times, physical movement, casting spells via incantation etc. I would see being at the same speed as the electrical synapses that work throughout the human body (assuming human physiology)

And I thought it was Superman hence the non feat comment.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Speed of thought at range -telepathy, sues fields etc. I could see being faster depending on the distance because they just happen without actually needing to travel.

Speed of thought = actual reaction times, physical movement, casting spells via incantation etc. I would see being at the same speed as the electrical synapses that work throughout the human body (assuming human physiology)

And I thought it was Superman hence the non feat comment.


Originally posted by abhilegend
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Rule of thumb, when it's Thor, speed of thought is faster than the speed of light. When it's someone else, it's slower.


That's a good rule when dealing with Thor fans.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor fans.

thorbags*

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
thorbags[b]* [/B]

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We should have named them Thorcunts

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Speed of thought at range -telepathy, sues fields etc. I could see being faster depending on the distance because they just happen without actually needing to travel.
I think we agree on the first part. I guess there have been times where telepathy is portrayed as traveling the astral plane and, therefore, bypassing spatial distance altogether. But there have been plenty of times where telepathy and other thought-based attacks/traveling/projections have been portrayed as travelling spatial distance to their target.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Speed of thought = actual reaction times, physical movement, casting spells via incantation etc. I would see being at the same speed as the electrical synapses that work throughout the human body (assuming human physiology)

And I thought it was Superman hence the non feat comment.

How a writer uses the term "speed of thought" is not necessarily that. And I don't think KMC has ever agreed to a homogenous definition, because there isn't even a homogenous definition in comics. But again, I don't think we're disagreeing here with the ultimate distinction. If an attack/projection is moving at the speed of thought, that's generally FTL. But your physical reaction can outspeed someone else's physical reaction.

I'm not sure what you're referring to. I guess Jon Kent is "the Superman" for now.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Speed of thought at range -telepathy, sues fields etc. I could see being faster depending on the distance because they just happen without actually needing to travel.

Speed of thought = actual reaction times, physical movement, casting spells via incantation etc. I would see being at the same speed as the electrical synapses that work throughout the human body (assuming human physiology)

And I thought it was Superman hence the non feat comment.


Even we assume speed of thought range == telepathy there still exist many examples of when you faster than speed of thought, you are immune to telepathy( or at least, can't read your mind)

https://i.ibb.co/CVJtTwW/RCO004.jpg

So yeah, speed of thought is kinda an obscure term with no real defined meaning in comics

Use the "BBCode medium linked" option, honey:

^ No, please don't stretch the page. Use thumbnails if able.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Even we assume speed of thought range == telepathy there still exist many examples of when you faster than speed of thought, you are immune to telepathy( or at least, can't read your mind)

https://i.ibb.co/CVJtTwW/RCO004.jpg

So yeah, speed of thought is kinda an obscure term with no real defined meaning in comics

Yup, it's obscure. Same character:
https://pm1.narvii.com/6361/c997b16101326fadd91e44e1dbd6cd2ca5a7ec7b_hq.jpg

Gorillas think faster than humans, noob 👆

Originally posted by abhilegend
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Rule of thumb, when it's Thor, speed of thought is faster than the speed of light. When it's someone else, it's slower.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's a good rule when dealing with Thor fans.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
thorbags[b]* [/B]
I'm willing to give some Thor fans the benefit of a doubt and assume they've gotten smart enough over time as to not hold on to moronic positions they've had a decade ago, unless restated. Damborg has mellowed my soul.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Even we assume speed of thought range == telepathy there still exist many examples of when you faster than speed of thought, you are immune to telepathy( or at least, can't read your mind)

https://i.ibb.co/CVJtTwW/RCO004.jpg

So yeah, speed of thought is kinda an obscure term with no real defined meaning in comics

Yep -- you can substitute it with "very fast". Characters move at the speed of thought, dodge attacks moving at the speed of though etc. all the time. The same way they dodge energy attacks -- be it hand-blasts, eye-blasts, mind-blasts etc.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I'm willing to give some Thor fans the benefit of a doubt and assume they've gotten smart enough over time as to not hold on to moronic positions they've had a decade ago, unless restated. Damborg has mellowed my soul.
This feels like a personal attack?

Originally posted by Philosophía
Yep -- you can substitute it with "very fast". Characters move at the speed of thought, dodge attacks moving at the speed of though etc. all the time. The same way they dodge energy attacks -- be it hand-blasts, eye-blasts, mind-blasts etc.
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You've been comatose for so many years because of Obamacare vin

It's not a personal attack, certainly not regarding the present. You've had a self-imposed 7 years sabbatical -- I'm giving the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't hold the positions abhi is referring from early 2010s, the same way many of us don't regarding various things.

I mean -- just to be safe, do you think in a hand to hand fight, in terms of speed, Thor is closer to Wolverine or Superman?

Wolverine is faster than Superman, so not sure what your point is.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wolverine is faster than Flash

Flash fact 👆