Cyclops wins

Originally posted by Disappear
cyclops' optic beams aren't regulated IN THE LEAST by his will. his eyes are interdimensional apertures which spew an exotic form of energy into this dimension when open. the apertures are maintained constantly, as negligible amounts of cosmic radiation (sunlight) are all that's necessary to maintain them. and, apparently, he can store the energy enough to operate at night. so cyke really only needs to have his eyes open to beat wolverine. his visor, regulated by controls on its side, and microcontrols within the thumb of his gloves, can change the width of the beam. you CANNOT accuse someone of not knowing a character, then make up facts of your own. it's called lying.

cyclops has, with assistance from a lightning bolt from storm, channeled a white optic beam strong enough to recharge the equivalent of a sun. he's also gone tirelessly through several combat situations, firing beam after beam, without passing out. in the one instance you state, he likely passed out due to other fatigue combined with the energy he loses focusing his beam (negligible amounts.) in this ONE instance, thanks to a writer's desire to beef up dramatics, he passed out. where does that become conclusive evidence that he'd lose to wolverine?

also, the seven scale is the most outdated, inaccurate rating system in all of comic lore. cyclops is a black belt in judo who taught colossus how to fight, but wolverine fell onto a sword and lost to daredevil. we could compare instances all day, but when it comes down to it, cyclops isn't nearly the pushover you want him to be. match that with years of strategy, enough to make him the leader designate of the x-men (and not wolverine, by no coincidence,) and a natural advantage of range. cyclops has the odds on his side.

Wow!!! you really are a X-cyclopedia 😄

Originally posted by Disappear
cyclops' optic beams aren't regulated IN THE LEAST by his will. his eyes are interdimensional apertures which spew an exotic form of energy into this dimension when open. the apertures are maintained constantly, as negligible amounts of cosmic radiation (sunlight) are all that's necessary to maintain them. and, apparently, he can store the energy enough to operate at night. so cyke really only needs to have his eyes open to beat wolverine. his visor, regulated by controls on its side, and microcontrols within the thumb of his gloves, can change the width of the beam. you CANNOT accuse someone of not knowing a character, then make up facts of your own. it's called lying.

cyclops has, with assistance from a lightning bolt from storm, channeled a white optic beam strong enough to recharge the equivalent of a sun. he's also gone tirelessly through several combat situations, firing beam after beam, without passing out. in the one instance you state, he likely passed out due to other fatigue combined with the energy he loses focusing his beam (negligible amounts.) in this ONE instance, thanks to a writer's desire to beef up dramatics, he passed out. where does that become conclusive evidence that he'd lose to wolverine?

also, the seven scale is the most outdated, inaccurate rating system in all of comic lore. cyclops is a black belt in judo who taught colossus how to fight, but wolverine fell onto a sword and lost to daredevil. we could compare instances all day, but when it comes down to it, cyclops isn't nearly the pushover you want him to be. match that with years of strategy, enough to make him the leader designate of the x-men (and not wolverine, by no coincidence,) and a natural advantage of range. cyclops has the odds on his side.

wolverien wa sasked to be a leade rof the x-men but turned it down. by the way it does have toi do with his will. he can at will make the blast strnger as he has shown in comics but that does not matte rebcause either way going all out would make him pass out. a mind controlled wolverien slipped on a sword big whoop I don't know why that would not make any diffrence. in ahnd to hand scot would get raped in seconds. by the way wolverien tought rogue, nightcrawler,jublee,havok,shadow cat and many more to fight

Originally posted by willRules
😂 He is just angry cos we have found another fight which cyke clearly wins and Logan loses..............

what the **** ar eu talken about u have yet to find a fight were scot wins there is how ever a fight were wolverine as death beats scot ass though.

Yes but we have to keep in mind that at the time wolverine did have upgrades.

Originally posted by steverules
Yes but we have to keep in mind that at the time wolverine did have upgrades.

no he did not. again if he ahd up grades who took them away unless ur saying he still has them?
also he stated up grades was his adamtium skeleton back and a adamtium sword that was it. he had no other up grades.

Originally posted by wolverine8888
no he did not. again if he ahd up grades who took them away unless ur saying he still has them?
also he stated up grades was his adamtium skeleton back and a adamtium sword that was it. he had no other up grades.

I remember hearing that when he was in Death r form he nearly killed the Hulk.Not scratch or hurt him but nearly killed him. If I'm wrong about this pleases correct me on what happened

You don't count that as a upgrade?

Originally posted by Jose123
I remember hearing that when he was in Death r form he nearly killed the Hulk.Not scratch or hurt him but nearly killed him. If I'm wrong about this pleases correct me on what happened

You don't count that as a upgrade?

Look I have a comic where it is said that he got upgrades, someone wrote in and asked about wolverines upgrades and got an answer so I think that wolverine did actually have upgrades.........I have the issue.

Originally posted by steverules
Look I have a comic where it is said that he got upgrades, someone wrote in and asked about wolverines upgrades and got an answer so I think that wolverine did actually have upgrades.........I have the issue.

post a scann or numebr of the issue.
also i have read the issue wer eit anmes is up grades.
his up grades were a adamtium skeleton.
that was the only thing.

also if wolverine was upgrade which he was not then who took the up grades away?

He might still have the upgrades, I don't know, how do you know he hasn't still got the upgrades. He was able to withstand physic attacks from Nate Grey, Jean Grey and cable and that was but part of the upgrades he had.

Originally posted by eristole
Really, when you consider a question like this it's pretty much not a factor of who would just all out win.

Wolverine has had more experience in killing and fighting than cyclops could ever hope to encounter, and even though his memory has been wiped more times than his rear end after a potty session. It would boil down to a few factors in the fight.

~Place~
~what they were fighting over~
~how commited they were~

And by those i mean; Place regards more along the lines of forests or outdoors as opposed to the concrete jungle. Wolverine has the upperhand outdoors and in close quarters. Where as cyclops would have the upper hand in a longer battle field, and cities.

What they were fighting for really puts each in his own element, wolverine in almost every battle with cyclops has held back, going for either "flesh wounds" or not even popping his claws, give him a reason to kill and i'd bet money it would end with cyclops in a pine box 6 feet under really.

Again with the killing part, nothing is more dangerous than a man who not only believes in what he is doing but doesnt think about it, just whole heartedly goes for it. like when you start out in an argument and the side you take is one you deducted from your own logic, once you get into it more it stops being about "the reason" and more about the fight. give wolverine a reason to kill and go all out and he will.

Precisely.

Originally posted by steverules
He might still have the upgrades, I don't know, how do you know he hasn't still got the upgrades. He was able to withstand physic attacks from Nate Grey, Jean Grey and cable and that was but part of the upgrades he had.

again wtf ar eut alken about. u keep sayign wolverien was up graded yet u have no proof. wolverine only up grade was adamtium skeleton. by the way i have a comic from abcik int eh day were wolverine gets hit full force from scots blast banshee scream storms wind and pheniox blast and is nto ko and is quite alright

Is that a comic with the hand in it, I don't think it is cause I think Jean actually hurt wolverine? Anyway, I think I can't remember where but I am sure he got upgrades, I have a comic where someone wrote in and asked about wolverines upgrades, the editor didn't say that wolverine didn't have upgrades but instead answered the question about the upgrades, now who do you think knows more, the editor or yourself? I will try and find the comic.

Originally posted by steverules
Is that a comic with the hand in it, I don't think it is cause I think Jean actually hurt wolverine? Anyway, I think I can't remember where but I am sure he got upgrades, I have a comic where someone wrote in and asked about wolverines upgrades, the editor didn't say that wolverine didn't have upgrades but instead answered the question about the upgrades, now who do you think knows more, the editor or yourself? I will try and find the comic.

again the editor said his up grades were adamtium skeleton and a adamatium sword

Not in my comic.

Originally posted by steverules
Not in my comic.

Have you given evidence.........uhm I don't think sochair

Originally posted by steverules
Have you given evidence.........uhm I don't think sochair

And you're the one who has to prove he wasn't upgraded.

Well I haven't read every post on here but I think Cyclops has had the advantage.He was the one who whipped all the X men into shape in the danger room sequences in the 70's revamp.He was the only one who kept his composure during the Proteus attack and even had to slap Wolverine around becausing he was to choked up to fight.And in the age of Apocalypse he did blow wolverines had off after getting very pissed.

I guess it could realy go either way but I think Cyke has had the upper hand through the years (unless you're counting ultimate X men).