HK-47 vs The Emperor

Started by exanda kane6 pages

There all a bit direct for HK-47. He would be very subtle with Palpatine, something like changing the oxygen levels in the Death Star etc. (I know he'd survive but something along these lines).

This post does derive from Escape wrongly thinking that me and Fishy though HK would defeat Sidious in a straight fight. That thread referred that Revan would have to assasinate Sidious and other Imperial dignitaries, "assasinate" not kill.

I don't think he could read HK's mind, but he could probably deflect anything he throws at him. He can still sense where he is going to shoot (example Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon vs Battle droids) and can still feel him (Exile being taught by Kreia to use the force).

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
It depends. The only way to kill a powerful force user like that is to shoot them repeatedly or stab them in the back.

I think that Sidious would be able to sense HK. He has no force ability to hide his intentions and Sidious is relatively perceptive. HK would shoot at him, Sidious would block the blaster bolt with his hands, then rip HK in half with a shrug.

I think blocking blaster bolts with bare hands is a little bit too far-fetched for jedi and sith. Sidious can probably be shot to death.

Originally posted by overlord
I think blocking blaster bolts with bare hands is a little bit too far-fetched for jedi and sith. Sidious can probably be shot to death.

Lesser Jedi(Corran Horn with only a few weeks of training) was able to withstand the explosion from high powered bombs. Sidious is certainly more powerful than he was at that time and Corran absorbed more energy than a single blaster bolt worth.

Lets not get ahead of ourselves...

Sidious would absolutedly fry HK in a staright fight - but theres is a strong possibility that HK would kill or seriously harm Sidious if he attempted to assasinate him in the Death Star.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Lesser Jedi(Corran Horn with only a few weeks of training) was able to withstand the explosion from high powered bombs. Sidious is certainly more powerful than he was at that time and Corran absorbed more energy than a single blaster bolt worth.
That's a good point though. Certainly worth remembering for further threads.

Originally posted by exanda kane
Lets not get ahead of ourselves...

Sidious would absolutedly fry HK in a staright fight - but theres is a strong possibility that HK would kill or seriously harm Sidious if he attempted to assasinate him in the Death Star.

How? Sidious is very perceptive and will be able to sense an attack. That and his ability to stop blaster bolts will make him able to thwart any attack.

yeh realistically sidious has this

It's not about Sidious, he can't win, there is nothing to win. It's weather HK could plan an assassination or not.

I think the Emperor would foresee it and stop him, however. He would foresee it then fry HK.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Lesser Jedi(Corran Horn with only a few weeks of training) was able to withstand the explosion from high powered bombs. Sidious is certainly more powerful than he was at that time and Corran absorbed more energy than a single blaster bolt worth.

This doesn't follow. If Person A can withstand an explosion and Person B is more powerful, naturally Person B can withstand an explosion? No, not neccessarily.

Corran Horn was not trained as a Sith, and I find it doubtful that a Sith Lord would have extensive training in the art of Living Through Bombs. Also, you're sampling. Just because one neo-jedi can survive explosions doesn't mean a Sith Lord from an era before his can do the same.

that makes sense

Originally posted by Blind Guardian
This doesn't follow. If Person A can withstand an explosion and Person B is more powerful, naturally Person B can withstand an explosion? No, not neccessarily.

Corran Horn was not trained as a Sith, and I find it doubtful that a Sith Lord would have extensive training in the art of Living Through Bombs. Also, you're sampling. Just because one neo-jedi can survive explosions doesn't mean a Sith Lord from an era before his can do the same.

Does Corran Horn have training against living through bombs though? Sidious has demonstrated greater control over a greater amount of energy(force lightning) and energy absorption is a common feat for Jedi in the KOTOR-era. It's not my personal sampling.

your right

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Does Corran Horn have training against living through bombs though? Sidious has demonstrated greater control over a greater amount of energy(force lightning) and energy absorption is a common feat for Jedi in the KOTOR-era. It's not my personal sampling.

You don't get the point--- you need to prove where Sidious has shown this ability or has found knowledge of it. I can just as easily say that Naga Sadow can create illusionary armies in the thousands thus Marka Ragnos and Simus can do the same because they are considered stronger, or that Nadd can freeze the entire senate because he is considered stronger than Kun.

Strength doesn't correlate to ability in all cases.

And for the record, HK would lose.

ssj3gohan007: I agree. Yeah you are right. That sounds good. (If he goes out on a limb) Probably (woo, bad ass).

You are such a suck up.

Originally posted by Blind Guardian
You don't get the point--- you need to prove where Sidious has shown this ability or has found knowledge of it. I can just as easily say that Naga Sadow can create illusionary armies in the thousands thus Marka Ragnos and Simus can do the same because they are considered stronger, or that Nadd can freeze the entire senate because he is considered stronger than Kun.

Strength doesn't correlate to ability in all cases.

And for the record, HK would lose.

I have proved it, you just missed it.

"...Sidious has demonstrated greater control over a greater amount of energy(force lightning)..."

Yes you should not underestimate Sidious, ok?

That's not proof at all. That would be like saying Yoda can make a basket using the Force just because he can lift a starship.

Explosions do not equal force lightning.

It does equal manipulation of energy to a high degree though.

Different kinds of energy. One's kinetic, the other electrical. You honestly think that because Sidious can shoot lightning from his fingertips that he can survive an explosion? By this logic a sniper can survive a gutwound because he can shoot people in the temple.