Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
When did I say that he could survive an explosion? I said he could block blaster bolts because he can manipulate energy.Force Lightning: Thermal Energy, Light energy, electrical energy
Blaster Bolt: Light Energy, Thermal Energy, possibly electrical energy
What is this nonsense?
Force lightning isn't thermal energy. If it was, Luke would be cooked. He was directly hit for over half a minute. Also, Force lightning doesn't act like lightning when it strikes a person.
Electrical discharge from lightning tends to travel over the surface of the body and causes respiratory arrest. From a mains circuit the damage is more likely to be internal, leading to cardiac arrest. With line currents above 2 milliamperes there can be a muscular spasm which causes the affected person to grip and be unable to release from the current source. It is believed that human lethality is most common with AC current at 100-250 volts, as lower voltages can fail to overcome body resistance while with higher voltages the victim's muscular contractions are often severe enough to cause them to recoil (although there will be considerable burn damage). Damage due to current is through tissue heating and interference with nervous control, especially over the heart. Fibrillation can be induced (and removed) by 10 mA, although, oddly, with higher currents (20 mA and above) contractions in muscles around the heart can actually prevent the heart from fibrillating. Tissue heating due to resistance can cause extensive and deep burns. Other issues affecting lethality are frequency, which is an issue in causing cardiac arrest or muscular spasms, and pathway - if the current passes through the chest or head there is an increased chance of death.
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Here's what Reference.com has to say about lightning as it applies to humans being struck...
Nearly 2000 persons per year in the world are injured by lightning strikes, and between 25 to 33 per cent of those struck die. Lightning injuries result from three factors: electrical damage, intense heat, and the mechanical energy which these generate. While sudden death is common due to the huge voltage of a lightning strike, survivors often fare better than victims of other electrical injuries which result in a more prolonged application of lesser voltage.
People may be hit in several different ways. In a direct hit the electrical charge strikes the victim first. Counterintuitively, if the victim's skin resistance is high enough, much of the current will flash around the skin or clothing to the ground, resulting in a surprisingly benign outcome. Splash hits occur when lightning effectively bounces off a nearby object and strikes the victim en route to ground. Ground stikes, in which the bolt lands near the victim and is conducted through the victim via his grounded feet or other body part, can cause great damage.
The most critical injuries are to the circulatory system, the lungs, and the central nervous system. Many victims suffer immediate cardiac arrest and will not survive without prompt emergency care, which, it is worth noting, is safe to administer, due to the fact that the victim will not retain any electrical charge after the lightning has struck. (Of course, the helper could be struck by a separate bolt of lightning in the vicinity.) Others incur myocardial infarction and various cardiac arrhythmias, either of which can be rapidly fatal as well. The intense heat generated by a lightning strike can cause lung damage, and the chest can be damaged by the mechanical force of rapidly expanding heated air. Either the electrical or the mechanical force can result in loss of consciousness, which is very common immediately after a strike. Amnesia and confusion of varying duration often result as well. A complete physical examination by paramedics or physicians may reveal ruptured eardrums, and ocular cataracts may develop, sometimes more than a year after an otherwise uneventful recovery.
From Reference.com
And really, blasters are made up of thermal energy, light energy, and possible electrical energy? Let's not jump to conclusions here.
Here's what the official site has to say...
The basic blaster technology of intensifying a beam of light into a deadly bolt is scalable, and largely the same despite the differences in weapon types and sizes. The interior mechanisms of a tiny hold-out blaster, a blaster pistol, a large blaster rifle, and a turbolaser cannon are based on the same theories and principles. A squeeze of a trigger emits volatile blaster gas into a conversion chamber, where it is excited by energy from the weapon's power source. The agitated gas is then funneled through the actuating blaster module, where it is processed into an intense particle beam. A prismatic crystal focuses the beam, and passes it through a refinement chamber which "galvens" the beam into its final bolt.
It's a particle beam. Intense one at that, but a particle beam.
A particle beam is an accelerated stream of atoms or subatomic particles (often moving at very near the speed of light) directed by magnets and focused by lenses. A natural analog to particle beams is lightning, where electrons flow from negatively charged clouds to positively charged clouds or the earth.
So yes, lightning and a particle beam weapon would be similar. But Force lightning is NOT lightning, despite its name and appearance, and because it does not behave as lightning should, it is foolish to assume one who can create Force Lightning can absorb or reflect blaster bolts, especially with no evidence of doing such before.
First reread this:
It is believed that human lethality is most common with AC current at 100-250 volts, as lower voltages can fail to overcome body resistance while with higher voltages the victim's muscular contractions are often severe enough to cause them to recoil (although there will be considerable burn damage). Damage due to current is through tissue heating and interference with nervous control, especially over the heart.
What part of that eluded you? Or the rest?
Tissue heating due to resistance can cause extensive and deep burns
Fibrillation can be induced (and removed) by 10 mA, although, oddly, with higher currents (20 mA and above) contractions in muscles around the heart can actually prevent the heart from fibrillating. . Other issues affecting lethality are frequency, which is an issue in causing cardiac arrest or muscular spasms, and pathway - if the current passes through the chest or head there is an increased chance of death
Did Luke look like he was cooked to you? Was he smoking and his heart destroyed? When did he lose consciousness? He was being shocked for half a minute! If it was operating under the same principles as electricity(Or God forbid- lightning!) he would be DEAD.
Or was it dramatic effect? Are you going to argue that Sidious can absorb blaster bolts because they are scientifically similar to lightning, but that Force lightning doesn't act like lighting (Though it still IS lightning apparently) due to dramatic effect?
Force Lightning may well be very similar if not equal to a powerful lightning bolt strike. Because you have to keep in mind jedi are not regular people infact some of the jedi are bloody aliens ok aliens which cannot be related to human anatomy at all. The jedi's use the force for healing and absorbtion and resistance. thats why they reacted like they did.
Originally posted by ssj3gohan007Beh.. Mace was immediately blown away. Luke didn't suffer any lasting damage.
actually i researched force lightning, it does slowly superheat the victom, and does a hell of alot of damage especially if its prolonged.
Well, I just re-played KOTOR again. There's no way in hell that HK-47 could take out the Emperor. Palpatine is powerful in the Force, more so than any sub-par Jedi that HK took out. He's also quicker than the droid - and his lightsaber would be very nice against him.
Makes me wonder why Fishy proposed that he could in the first place.