Iceman Respect Thread

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X-Factor is fighting Hulk and Cyclops is in trouble. Iceman takes care of that. 😄.

Ultimate Iceman in Ultimate War. Notice the speed. And this is supose to be a young Iceman and less experienced.

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Originally posted by jrodslam
In a fight vs Human Torch, Bobby makes it rain.

Wow, thats the worst example of Torch losing ever. I mean wouldnt it just evaporate?

If you ask me Iceman and Torch's powers cancel each other out.

Originally posted by jrodslam

Ugh, I hated that scene in Ultimate War. I mean seriously, it makes no sense, Iceman defeating all of S.H.E.I.L.D?!? Of course there were a ton of things wrong with that series so yeah.

Why doesn't it make sense? Maybe he is just that powerful...

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Why doesn't it make sense? Maybe he is just that powerful...

All of S.H.E.I.L.D?!?! I mean there is no way that Iceman is powerful enougth to pretty much freeze all of New York, at least not Ultimate Iceman. 616 Iceman might have been able to do it Pre-Decimation

But like I said before the mini series was messed up anyway.

why the ultimate x-men are still teenagers and are devolping their powers maybe he if just geting more powerfull. he did freeze the sentanl back in issiue one. and that didn't even seem like he was using that much effort.

Originally posted by jasofisc
why the ultimate x-men are still teenagers and are devolping their powers maybe he if just geting more powerfull. he did freeze the sentanl back in issiue one. and that didn't even seem like he was using that much effort.

Yeah but there is a HUGE difference between freezing a falling Sentinal and about 20% of New York.

Originally posted by Grimm22

If you ask me Iceman and Torch's powers cancel each other out.

good thing no one asked 😛 Serouisly speaking, Torchs powers and Icemans Powers are different. Torch generates heat, and can bring it up to nova levels. Iceman doesnt generate cold, and doesnt absorb heat. Therefore, from various examples, we know that he literally stops molecular motion. He even froze the freakin Stranger. Iceman can just flash freeze the Torches molecules (which include his flames) Iceman is MUCH more versitile and powerful with his powers, while Torch has the destructive edge.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Yeah but there is a HUGE difference between freezing a falling Sentinal and about 20% of New York.

To his defense, X also said that he was the third most powerful X-man and in going with X-men fashion they always get more powerful with training and using their powers more proficiently. Besides the story was his coming back as a hero, which every good hero needs to look good for....

Originally posted by Blair Wind
good thing no one asked 😛 Serouisly speaking, Torchs powers and Icemans Powers are different. Torch generates heat, and can bring it up to nova levels. Iceman doesnt generate cold, and doesnt absorb heat. Therefore, from various examples, we know that he literally stops molecular motion. He even froze the freakin Stranger. Iceman can just flash freeze the Torches molecules (which include his flames) Iceman is MUCH more versitile and powerful with his powers, while Torch has the destructive edge.

Well I guess thats what happens when your an omega mutant. 😄

Still nowadays I think it would be a more even fight.

Can I have a qustion?? When does Omega Iceman appear?? And what can he do?

Wow...I stopped reading the mutant stuff 3 or 4 years ago for various reasons. I had no idea...

he didnt just "appear". He was always omega and has continously evolved his powers from the snow effects to ice, to fully ice. If I were to say when he was portrayed most powerful it would have to be in X-men Forever which I already posted all his feats for.

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just a little something, this is a discusion I had with TheKahn:

Ok so I have a question about a scan that I want your opinion on. Let us start by saying that Jean Grey is a accomplished Telepath, yes? That would mean that she has an extra perceptionary sense at her disposal, yes? Then why did she not no if in fact Iceman was around when he was in I dont need a body mode?

http://img347.imageshack.us/my.php?...ever5p227kd.jpg

Maybe in that form, his brain is so far out, that even a telepath cant locate him?

Now this is TheKahns response to the subject:

Quite interesting...perhaps we should look at exactly what Iceman says: "Jean I'm kind of everywhere." Meaning that his consciousness is so spread out that he is quite literally everywhere and thus there really isn't a point where his thoughts are emanating from. Which one could suppose to mean that he is invisible to telepathic scanning (and, corresponding, attack) in that form. Quite interesting...

interesting indeed......

I can't see that image. 😬

sorry here it is:
http://img347.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforever5p227kd.jpg

Originally posted by Blair Wind
sorry here it is:
http://img347.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforever5p227kd.jpg