Originally posted by KmcKarma
I say we need to get together and blow up any country that supports terrorism or breeds them.
"George W. Bush. Great president, or the greatest president?"
-Stephen Colbert
Since the war in Iraq had only drawn terrorists, I would withdraw forces immediately and apoligize greatly for starting war (for crying out loud) just for a bunch of hunches wich weren't even correct after all.
I would also resign as I would have proven to be completely incapable of leading a country after displaying such an ignorent act and giving the rest of the world a really negative representation of America.
As to why war is indeed a bad thing: Just think of the unintentional deaths of people who had nothing to do with this and their suffering and place yourself in their position.
Saddam Hussein would still be trialled but I would stop the orders of torturing suspects as they are innocent 'till proven guilty.
Iraq-should never be there. However, since we are there, we can't leave until we finish what we've started. Yes, we ousted a ruthless dictactor, and set up a make shift democractic goverment, but I'm not so sure it will stay that way after we leave.
Terrorists-come in every race, tongue, and color. It is the responsibility of every earthling to get this scum off of our planet. These people do not care for life, and you and I only get one.
Originally posted by KmcKarma
I say we need to get together and blow up any country that supports terrorism or breeds them.
Timothy Mcveigh was a terrorist. As were Terry Nichols, The Buffalo Six as are any of the many people who have bombed abortion clinics. These people were all americans. They were bred in America. Guess it's time to turn the guns on yourself eh fellas?
Jack Thomas and Jack Roche are Australian Al Queda terrorists.
KmcKarma, KidRock, Imagawa666, you basically support blowing up your own country because you all agree that any country that supports or breeds terrorism should be so taken care of. Your idiotic rantings do nothing but show both your ignorance and lack of common sense.
Originally posted by BobbyD
Overlord, that's nice n' all, but the problem is they don't want to be understood. They (terrorists) don't care about wanting to be heard.
I think overlord's point (and please correct me overlord if I am speaking out of turn) is that there are certain motivations that drive terrorists. In order to defeat a terroist, you must first understand his motivation and purpose. For example, people who say that islamic terrorists hate americans because they are jealous that americans drive nice cars are contributing nothing to the understanding of what's going. Understanding what is taking place in the minds of the enemy is the first step in defeating them.
On a side note - There are more than just islamic terrorists in the world and there have been many who were regarded as terrorists at the time of their actions but now are seen as liberators, freedom fighters or heros.
Originally posted by BobbyD
Call me a murderer, Kharma, but I don't want to understand what makes terrorists tick. They don't care how I tick so......That may harsh
Understanding them doesn't mean that you have to agree with them. Educating yourself about your enemy is only common sense. It also may open your eyes to why things are happening.
For instance, The United States military equipment , knowledge and money to Iraq many years ago to help in their war with Iran. Later The United States trade arms to Iran that were going to be used against Iraqis. Is it any wonder that both sides hat the U.S. government? Whether it is right or wrong, one can see how various foreign policies might have led to such a situation. Acknowledgement of that and the common sense to avoid such policies in the future could probably lesson the threat of terrorist actions in the long term future.
Sticking your head in the sand only exasperates the problem.
Originally posted by BobbyD
, and no you didn't necessarily speak out of turn....this is a forum where people can debate.
I meant that in regards of me trying to clarify what overlord was saying.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
- John F. Kennedy
Bush has made the first impossible, so the only option left is the latter. While the US continues to occupy Iraq, there will be no peace as too many Iraqi factions resent them being there. Perhaps it is a difficult outcome to accept, but the only way a truly representative government will emerge is after the initial anarchy that will result from a complete US withdrawal. Of course, this will never happen for many reasons, which means that Iraq is going to be f*cked-up for a long time.
Thank you, America.