Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
It's worth noting that Malak killed two Jedi in less time then it took Sidious. Also note that these were the best Jedi in fleet as they were sent to try and kill Malak.He's called a brute, but what do you think Luke in his force rage was? What about Vader before ep3? All brutes.
Strongest in the fleet? Erm no...The idea was to send a quantity of jedi not quality or else Master Vandar, Vrook etc. would of gone. The two jedi that made it to Malak just happened to be one of the *lucky* ones to make it past star forge defenses.
Originally posted by jollyjim311
There is reason to belive that Bane, Traya, and Revan are all powerful, just there is no evidense that says that they are rediculously so. They were some if not the strongest people in their era, but so was Sidious, Vader, Luke, and Yoda. Why would they be any more powerful then them?
The fact that the feats they displayed were far more impressive. Traya curbstomped three Jedi Masters and zapped them from the force.
Revan didn't even fall to the darkside, he actually controlled it. He was a tactical genius and was able to convert thousands of Jedi to him, far more impressive than Sidious and Vader's purge, Revan converted them, he didn't kill them.
Bane was one of the strongest of the Sith of his time, he was in the highest echelon of a Sith Order that had been at war for a thousand years.
Originally posted by Darth Traya
The fact that the feats they displayed were far more impressive. Traya curbstomped three Jedi Masters and zapped them from the force.Revan didn't even fall to the darkside, he actually controlled it. He was a tactical genius and was able to convert thousands of Jedi to him, far more impressive than Sidious and Vader's purge, Revan converted them, he didn't kill them.
Bane was one of the strongest of the Sith of his time, he was in the highest echelon of a Sith Order that had been at war for a thousand years.
Okay, but:
Sidious curbstomped 3 Jedi Masters with his lightsaber in the same amount of time.
I thought that he became Darth Revan. He was corrupted and brought corruption to the Jedi that followed him. Also, Bane had set the rule of 2, no way Vader and Sidious would recruit more, they had all that was needed, as where Revan didn't.
Sidious was the strongest out of the Sith that had been gaining power to get revenge on the Jedi for a thousand years.
There are always 3 Sith, no more, no less.- Yoda, I didn't quote it because I'm not sure if that is the exact quote.
Sith aren't supposed to be scared of anything. And there isn't much information on Plageous so we can't debate weather or not Sidious was scared of him. Maybe Sidious just decided that he could do a better job at being the Master then Plageous during the night time. He went to kill him and he happened to be sleeping. We don't know.
What you are going on is simply speculation using some feats that some authors or game designers decided to use, maybe they had a better imagination then lucas so it seems like those ancient characters can do so much. The power of characters all depends on the imaginations of their creators. if one author felt like it he could make a character that can kick marka ragnos's @SS like a rag doll, and blow up galaxies with his pinky. Think about it. oh i think that sids team can win, because anything is possible.
ROTS Sidious is nothing minor. He's already a master of the Darkside and on Yoda's tier. Traya did....what exactly? She cut three Jedi from the Force and they couldn't take it, big deal. Ulic survived that no problem. Tholme in the PT era disconnected himself from the Force and later on connected himself back with no problem. That was the Council's weakness
Originally posted by ssj3gohan007
What you are going on is simply speculation using some feats that some authors or game designers decided to use, maybe they had a better imagination then lucas so it seems like those ancient characters can do so much. The power of characters all depends on the imaginations of their creators. if one author felt like it he could make a character that can kick marka ragnos's @SS like a rag doll, and blow up galaxies with his pinky. Think about it. oh i think that sids team can win, because anything is possible.
What a heap of bullshit! If that were true then I could declare Zett Jukassa to be more powerful than NJO Luke, because the NJO writers obviously had far more imagination...
Well think about it this way. Some people have been bringing up video game characters and comparing them with canon characters using their feats in the "game". well two can play that game. I could just as easily bring up the Revenge of The Sith Game which is also a game just like KOTR, and say that Anakin can kick Mace Windu's ass cause he did it in the game. Or Cin Drallig is stronger than Anakin cause he was able to overpower rots vader and only died because of a lucky shot from Anakin's lightsaber throw, or that Vader, suited and unsuited can use force lightning!!!. While i admit that its bullshit, it has about the same level of canon source as KOTR why? because their both games.
Originally posted by ssj3gohan007
Well think about it this way. Some people have been bringing up video game characters and comparing them with canon characters using their feats in the "game". well two can play that game. I could just as easily bring up the Revenge of The Sith Game which is also a game just like KOTR, and say that Anakin can kick Mace Windu's ass cause he did it in the game. Or Cin Drallig is stronger than Anakin cause he was able to overpower rots vader and only died because of a lucky shot from Anakin's lightsaber throw, or that Vader, suited and unsuited can use force lightning!!!. While i admit that its bullshit, it has about the same level of canon source as KOTR why? because their both games.
It doesn't have the same level of Canon as KotOR. KotOR doesn't contradict the movies, where as the Episode Three game does.
Ergo, in terms of canon KotOR > EP3 game