Ultimate Colossus, and Colossus Respect Thread

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Ok now your just being retarded.

Colossus danced with Classic Juggernaut. Sasquatch went toe to toe with savage Hulk for a bit. But Sasquatch knew that he could not win. He is lucky Hulk leaped away.

Shut up man, I like you but your being foolish

Sasquatch battled the Hulk for more than 30 minutes, a lot longer than Colossus fight with Jugz. The way things were going yeah Hulk was going to win. See there's a difference with me and you, I know my characters limits. Colossus was outclassed that match, we clearly see that. A judo toss is not going to give him a win.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Shut up man, I like you but your being foolish

Sasquatch battled the Hulk for more than 30 minutes, a lot longer than Colossus fight with Jugz. The way things were going yeah Hulk was going to win. See there's a difference with me and you, I know my characters limits. Colossus was outclassed that match, we clearly see that. A judo toss is not going to give him a win.

Sasquatch was knocked out in like 20 seconds.

Oh by the way I know when Colossus is outmatched and that's against guys like Juggernaut and the Hulk.

Not Sasquatch or Thing.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
What about the fight with Champion? Sasquatch was knocked out in two hits I think. Colossus took hit after hit and almost lasted a full round.

Sasquatch was knocked out in like 20 seconds.

Oh by the way I know when Colossus is outmatched and that's against guys like Juggernaut and the Hulk.

Not Sasquatch or Thing.

Uh uh, remember Alpha Flight jobs....ALOT. Do you honestly think a guy who has equal hand to hand compared to the Thing and stronger would get taken out that easily?

Dude at this time, Sasquatch was meant to be the Canadian Hulk. Today the fight would be HELLA of a lot different, but Colossus battling a serious Sasquatch at this time would have lost.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
but Colossus battling a serious Sasquatch at this time would have lost.

What reason would he have for not fighting serious?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Let me ask you this. Being you say Sasquatch was not fighting serious.

What reason would he have for not fighting serious?

Alright looks like I have to post the scans.

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg07.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg09.jpg
3. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg10.jpg
4. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg11.jpg

1. First scans he smacks him around
2. Next he picks him up like a toy
3. Making it a game, like "I can hit harder than you nahnahnahnah"
4. Grabs his head while Colossus's swings at him like a child.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Alright looks like I have to post the scans.

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg07.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg09.jpg
3. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg10.jpg
4. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg11.jpg

1. First scans he smacks him around
2. Next he picks him up like a toy
3. Making it a game, like "I can hit harder than you nahnahnahnah"
4. Grabs his head while Colossus's swings at him like a child.

Ok. Now if you watch boxing which I do. There is a boxer name Roy Jones Jr. When he fought Antonio Tarver for the 2nd and 3rd time he was talking trash and mocking him the whole fight. Every time Tarver would hit Jones he would shake his head like it didn't hurt. But guess what? Tarver ended up knocking him out!

What I am trying to say is just because somebody is trashtalking or doing childish things during the fight does not mean they are not trying or that your punches are not hurting them.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I expected this answer.

Ok. Now if you watch boxing which I do. There is a boxer name Roy Jones Jr. When he fought Antonio Tarver for the 2nd and 3rd time he was talking trash and mocking him the whole fight. Every time Tarver would hit Jones he would shake his head like it didn't hurt. But guess what? Tarver ended up knocking him out!

What I am trying to say is just because somebody is trashtalking or doing childish things during the fight does not mean they are not trying or that your punches are not hurting them.

Uh huh, but if you read any other comic with Sasquatch in it. This is the first and only time he does something like this. Remember this is his first apperance, and they don't mention him being a genius or a great H2H fighter. Sasquatch has yelled at Alpha FLight members several times for not taking fights serious enough. Dude his punches didn't hurt him and his tosses didn't....how is Colossus going to win?

So your saying a bloodlusted Sasquatch would do the same damage compared to one that is playing around? A serious fight would be the one against Hulk, where he tried to end the fight as quick as possible. Same thing when he battled the Thing.

Do you think he was playing around with Thing also?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Do you think he was playing around with Thing also?

At first he didn't even want to fight and then he wanted to end it.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
At first he didn't even want to fight and then he wanted to end it.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
But he didn't end it. He was bigger and stronger than Thing but he not finish him. The same with Colossus.

Uh uh, we know that Sasquatch was weakened from transforming just before he got in the fight. We also know Sasquatch could press 250 tons and toss it 1000 feet as well as left up the front end of a battle cruiser and drag it along the water.

So once again, written correctly Sasquatch would have dominated Thing. However, I digress. Do I think current Colossus would win in a fight? yep. Just not in his 75 ton personna.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Uh uh, we know that Sasquatch was weakened from transforming just before he got in the fight. We also know Sasquatch could press 250 tons and toss it 1000 feet as well as left up the front end of a battle cruiser and drag it along the water.

So once again, written correctly Sasquatch would have dominated Thing. However, I digress. Do I think current Colossus would win in a fight? yep. Just not in his 75 ton personna.

I know the X-jet weighs 85 tons.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
You just made me think of something. Being that plane weighed 250 tons how much do you think that starship weighed Colossus caught from fallin out of the sky?

I know the X-jet weighs 85 tons.

Didn't see that scan, and keep in mind he wasn't even pushing himself either. He did it with ease as he said he didn't even know his strength.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Didn't see that scan, and keep in mind he wasn't even pushing himself either. He did it with ease as he said he didn't even know his strength.

I would say this ship weighs over 300 tons. The impressive thing was he stopped the momentum of if falling plus it's weights. He was even injured when he did this.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Uh uh, we know that Sasquatch was weakened from transforming just before he got in the fight. We also know Sasquatch could press 250 tons and toss it 1000 feet as well as left up the front end of a battle cruiser and drag it along the water.

So once again, written correctly Sasquatch would have dominated Thing. However, I digress. Do I think current Colossus would win in a fight? yep. Just not in his 75 ton personna.

Alright...ur way off....if Sas can lift 250 tons and throw it 1000 feet, then Thing is a high level Class 100, because as the scan below shows, Thing is far stronger than Sas....Sas even admits it....and written well, Thing would actually be the dominant one in a fight.

Now just look at this scan, this proves everything ive just said, and it was from Infinity Crusade, a well-written epic book, so there's no PIS here.

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Originally posted by snoopdogg
Did you see the one with Colossus carrying the X-jet on his back under water 2 miles uphill to shore?

I would say this ship weighs over 300 tons. The impressive thing was he stopped the momentum of if falling plus it's weights. He was even injured when he did this.

Yep. I guarntee you Sasquatch could do that easily. Seeing as it;s just 85 tons [Like I could do better]. He tossed the plane 1000 feet while the engines were still going on which produce 150 tons of thrust.

Naaaa I wouldn't say over 300 tons, especially with the jets going trying to stabilizers and retros the craft meaning it's trying to slow it down and push it back up. Also if it really was that much weight the rock surface the way it is wouldn't be able to hold up the weight.

Originally posted by Fonzie
Alright...ur way off....if Sas can lift 250 tons and throw it 1000 feet, then Thing is a high level Class 100, because as the scan below shows, Thing is far stronger than Sas....Sas even admits it....and written well, Thing would actually be the dominant one in a fight.

Now just look at this scan, this proves everything ive just said, and it was from Infinity Crusade, a well-written epic book, so there's no PIS here.

Ummm....seriously check the Thing vs. Sasquatch fight as well as other things in the ALpha FLight thread. That is indeed wrong. Current Sasquatch's base strength is now 75 tons, prior to his classic first apperance he was 100 class.

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Sasplane1.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/UncannyX-Men120b.jpg

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Hulk_Annual_1979_008_11.jpg

Feats outweight one comment in a crossover.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yep. I guarntee you Sasquatch could do that easily. Seeing as it;s just 85 tons [Like I could do better]. He tossed the plane 1000 feet while the engines were still going on which produce 150 tons of thrust.

Naaaa I wouldn't say over 300 tons, especially with the jets going trying to stabilizers and retros the craft meaning it's trying to slow it down and push it back up. Also if it really was that much weight the rock surface the way it is wouldn't be able to hold up the weight.

Or how can he lift a heavy boat out of the water while standing in the muck without sinking?

Oh and the stabilizers were activated too late meaning Colossus had the majority of the weight of the ship. And it was bigger than the plane Sasquatch tossed.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Well if you try an apply real sciencs in comics how did Sasquatch throw a 250 tons plane without ripping the body apart?

Or how can he lift a heavy boat out of the water while standing in the muck without sinking?

Oh and the stabilizers were activated too late meaning Colossus had the majority of the weight of the ship. And it was bigger than the plane Sasquatch tossed.

because he lifted it off the ground and then tossed it backwords. Planes are meant to be in the air.

You can see he went into a rocky cove

They were activated, but it was to late since they still were about to crash. Colossus caught them, but the stabilizers would still help with the weight. Yes it was, but there wasn't any engines going to help him with the weight it was actually working against him.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yep. I guarntee you Sasquatch could do that easily. Seeing as it;s just 85 tons [Like I could do better]. He tossed the plane 1000 feet while the engines were still going on which produce 150 tons of thrust.

The jet was full of water also which put it over 100 tons.