Ultimate Colossus, and Colossus Respect Thread

Started by Fonzie159 pages

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Ummm....seriously check the Thing vs. Sasquatch fight as well as other things in the ALpha FLight thread. That is indeed wrong. Current Sasquatch's base strength is now 75 tons, prior to his classic first apperance he was 100 class.

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Sasplane1.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/UncannyX-Men120b.jpg

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Hulk_Annual_1979_008_11.jpg

Feats outweight one comment in a crossover.

Dude the Thing vs Sas fight proved nothing....Ben never lost....plus that was a looooooooooong time ago.....Ben's gotten ALOT stronger since then.....and bro im not saying Sasquatch is weak....im just saying that anything Sas can do, Thing can do better. Also, look at the Champion fight. Thing lasted over a round, going back and forth with the Champion, with Champ eventually getting the better.....Sasquatch was knocked out cold in about 3 hits.

Thing >>> Sasquatch

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Originally posted by King_Mungi
because he lifted it off the ground and then tossed it backwords. Planes are meant to be in the air.

Yea but he had ahold of it on the thin metal body. It should have ripped right apart realisticaly ofcourse.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I don't think he could. Sasquatch cannot hold his breath long enough to walk 2 miles carrying over 100 tons on his back.

The jet was full of water also which put it over 100 tons.

And?....he can still breath. If he can drag a cruiser and lift it with the suction that isn't to bad for him.

Yeah I know that's a feat, but Sasquatch tossed a 250 ton plane a thousand feet while the 150 pound thrust engines were still going on. It stopped because it hit the building, could it have gone further? probally. That's mad strength.

Originally posted by Fonzie
Dude the Thing vs Sas fight proved nothing....Ben never lost....plus that was a looooooooooong time ago.....Ben's gotten ALOT stronger since then.....and bro im not saying Sasquatch is weak....im just saying that anything Sas can do, Thing can do better. Also, look at the Champion fight. Thing lasted over a round, going back and forth with the Champion, with Champ eventually getting the better.....Sasquatch was knocked out cold in about 3 hits.

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UUhhhhh....man your missing the entire point. Sasquatch currently is weaker than what he was. He isn't 100 class like Thing or Colossus are now. I even stated todays Colossus would win in a fight. However, this whole point is a 75 ton Colossus whoses punches did nothing to him and his judo toss as well, isn't going to win. Also prior to his Thing fight it was stated he was weakened due to the transformation. Champion fight has been discussed, bad writing due to at that time he was stronger than the Thing and equal to him in H2H.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yea but he had ahold of it on the thin metal body. It should have ripped right apart realisticaly ofcourse.

A DC-10 usually don't have a thin metal body. Their very durable.

Originally posted by King_Mungi

A DC-10 usually don't have a thin metal body. Their very durable.

Not durable enough to hold 250tons of weight and the thrust.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Not durable enough to hold 250tons of weight and the thrust.

Sure it would, since gravity is already pushing on it and that's the cargo bay where everything is. The thrust wouldn't matter much since it won't break the hull, it just isn't moving now since he is holding it.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Sure it would, since gravity is already pushing on it and that's the cargo bay where everything is. The thrust wouldn't matter much since it won't break the hull, it just isn't moving now since he is holding it.
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Originally posted by King_Mungi
Also prior to his Thing fight it was stated he was weakened due to the transformation.
Thing also stated he was tired from walking all around the forest too before the fight.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Thing also stated he was tired from walking all around the forest too before the fight.

Yeah but compared to a guy who has done all these feats compared to a weaker Thing. Who do you think got the shaft on the depowering on that one?

cyclops has hit quicksilver too, mung. i fully agree with the assessment of the x-men v. alpha flight rumble, in that AF would've won rather easily if it weren't for wolverine's surrender and shaman's mishap. but northstar was being written like a flying quicksilver back then, and just because he "shouldnt" have been hit doesn't excuse the fact that he was.

and, written as they were back then, i must agree sasquatch would've wiped the floor with piotr. i love the russky to death, and this IS a colossus respect thread, but every advantage goes to langkowski in that fight. now stop the seven pages of argument, and get back to feat-postin'.

Originally posted by Disappear

and, written as they were back then, i must agree sasquatch would've wiped the floor with piotr.

But he did not. Walter may have had him beat physically but Colossus outfought him towards the end of the fight. How can that be argued?

Anyways here is Colossus using his fists to pound through endless tons of rock without a way out. It was stated by his brother Mikhail that these rocks were impenetrable.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossussmashin.jpg

Originally posted by Disappear
cyclops has hit quicksilver too, mung.

now stop the seven pages of argument, and get back to feat-postin'.

Actually your right I remember now [good memory], oh and well since this was his first apperance I guess he wasn't curising speed at mach 10. By the time Alpha Flight #1 came out, he could.

Fine by me, if Snoopdogg can give me some issue numbers I will post some scans for him.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
But he did not. Walter may have had him beat physically but Colossus outfought him towards the end of the fight. How can that be argued?

Anyways here is Colossus using his fists to pound through endless tons of rock without a way out. It was stated by his brother Mikhail that these rocks were impenetrable.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossussmashin.jpg

He didn't outfight him, he did one toss. If your going by a points system Sasquatch won.

Isn't that from the new mini? Like I said current Colossus would beat him, not the 75 ton personna back in the day.

Here is a double feat here. Phoenix was using telekenitc powers to make the X-men fly with her.

She then released Colossus sending him flying down leaving a crater once again.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossusuxm129proteus.jpg

This scan shows he is faster than people assume. He quickly got up after the fall and charged Proteus with speed that belies his massive form.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossusuxm129proteus2.jpg

Can't Colossus run 500 mph or around there?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Can't Colossus run 500 mph or around there?
He's fast but not 500 mph. I don't know for sure but he has level 3 speed.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
He's fast but not 500 mph. I don't know for sure but he has level 3 speed.

That's from the recent handbook right? So that's superhuman: peak range 700 mph. So whatever he actually is he is REAL fast.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
That's from the recent handbook right? So that's superhuman: peak range 700 mph. So whatever he actually is he is REAL fast.

Umm...when someone has 3 it doesn't actually mean that their peak range is 700 MPH. It's everything between normal speed and 700 MPH.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Umm...when someone has 3 it doesn't actually mean that their peak range is 700 MPH. It's everything between normal speed and 700 MPH.

I know, hence why I said somewhere in there. We know that he is faster than a normal person.

Also did we ever learn anything more about Colossus' son?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Umm...when someone has 3 it doesn't actually mean that their peak range is 700 MPH. It's everything between normal speed and 700 MPH.
Actually it's everything from peak human to 700MPH. So basically he is faster than any track athlete. But he is faster than powerhouses like Herc, Thing, etc.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I know, hence why I said somewhere in there. We know that he is faster than a normal person.

Also did we ever learn anything more about Colossus' son?

He was seen in a panel in Colossus #4. But he was never talked about.