This is WWH were talkn about, I think colossus gave a pretty good showing, lasted quite a long time. This hulk has beat the crap out of everyone...thing, herc, black blot. Hulk even says he has guts and might have been a worthy rival before. It was kinda stupid on peters part to engage him in a test of strength after seeing what he did to blackbolt though. First time iv seen Peter get damaged like that though...i wonder what will happen.
Originally posted by colossus34Well Hulk just got hit with a nova blast before he fought Thing. I'm sure that softend him up. Hulk put Thing down with just one hit to where Colossus was hit atleast twice and got back up right away.
😠 As usual Marvel writers like Gage give Colossus no respect! Him getting his arm's broken is not suprise, though he cant take the hulk we should at least get a couple of panel's with him and the hulk trading punches.When he came back from the dead and was now in the 100 ton class which is a pretty exclusive club i thought they would give him more respect but....Contrast the thing fight in WWH 2 to this one.Colossus is as strong as the Thing and more durable but the Thing was shown trading punches with the hulk and even got in a nice couple of shot's. Colossus just fell victim to Gage wanting to show how powerful the hulk has become so Colossus jobs like a rookie.
Originally posted by snoopdoggWhat seemed to happen according to the comics, was that Thing is a harder hitter, while Colossus is more durable (even though Colossus wasn't smashed over the head like Thing was).
Well Hulk just got hit with a nova blast before he fought Thing. I'm sure that softend him up. Hulk put Thing down with just one hit to where Colossus was hit atleast twice and got back up right away.
Oh well.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Well Hulk just got hit with a nova blast before he fought Thing. I'm sure that softend him up. Hulk put Thing down with just one hit to where Colossus was hit atleast twice and got back up right away.
Or another way to look at it is that torch went nova on HULKs ass and in doing so amped him up on the anger scale a couple lvls... Ben hit HULK with some monster shots which were shown to do much more damage than the the ones Colossus hit HULK with...And Ben wasn't knocked out he basically got a two-fisted thunder punch over his ears... Which I'm sure clearly disoriented him... He went to a knee... HULK was going to hit him again with a double sledgehammer (which is only ASSUMED to have maybe been able to have KO'd Ben). Then Reed/SENTRY came into the picture. IMO Ben was just trying to stall HULK till Reed got his gizmo going. (I.E. Ben saying "Took ya long enough" to Reed) Colossus's fight with HULK was never truly a one-one situation until the end when...lol... HULK broke his arms... Prior to that there was 4-5 other X-men engaging him at the same time. So HULK wasn't able to give Colossus his undivided attention...And then we saw what happened when he did. Colossus isn't in HULKs nor Bens class... I believe that has been completely and fully shown now.
WWH is "THE" brick now (again) for sure... Can't wait for issue #5 When Bob comes to take care of business.
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Originally posted by Tony StarkColossus never had 4 or 5 X-Men backing him up. There was two and that was Emma and Beast, that's not exactly good back up when fighting a uber Hulk. And Hulk didn't even pay any attention to either in any of those panels. He was focused on Colossus as you can see. In the page before Hulk backhands Colossus check out the look on Hulks face. He was pissed off before he delivered that punch that did nothing really to Colossus. Another thing is Colossus lasted a lengthy battle cause there was alot of dialogue going on during the fight.
Colossus's fight with HULK was never truly a one-one situation until the end when...lol... HULK broke his arms... Prior to that there was 4-5 other X-men engaging him at the same time. So HULK wasn't able to give Colossus his undivided attention...
Atleast Colossus still had all his marbels left at the end. That's more than Thing can say.
Originally posted by Tony StarkWhy would you assuem that? Hulk wasn't even phased by eithers punches. Sh!t Beast gave WWH a bloody nose with a kick, does that mean he did better than Colossus did? WWH bleeds alot I noticed.
Ben hit HULK with some monster shots which were shown to do much more damage than the the ones Colossus hit HULK with.
I think colussus is lightly superior to thing in strength terms or just about equal bouth are class 100's but not that far into this category as juggeranut or hulk is, but neither shoudl be allowed to stand toe to toe with a guy that could posiblly bench millions of tons even without being in this current WWH incarnation as their limits are far below this(they are capable of liftinga thousand ytons or a few at most).HUlk only engages them in combat to sell comics because he doesn't have anyone else as strong as himself to fight well not yet (here's hoping sentry is established as the strongest). Howver ben did better because it was a different writer to teh colossus hulk fight,he has history with hulk (a constant rival;which he should not be) and hulk already looked as if Human torch had taken him down a notch. Collusus is way more durable than the thing but his mistake was engaging hulk in a ocntest of strength the hulk is thousand of times stronger than colosus and thing it's a fact if written with logic colosus or thing shoudl not be able to stand up to him at all , but accept it it's a comic..............BTW i forget what my point was
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Colossus never had 4 or 5 X-Men backing him up. There was two and that was Emma and Beast, that's not exactly good back up when fighting a uber Hulk. And Hulk didn't even pay any attention to either in any of those panels. He was focused on Colossus as you can see. In the page before Hulk backhands Colossus check out the look on Hulks face. He was pissed off before he delivered that punch that did nothing really to Colossus. Another thing is Colossus lasted a lengthy battle cause there was alot of dialogue going on during the fight.Atleast Colossus still had all his marbels left at the end. That's more than Thing can say.
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Opening page in the fight 6 X-men are attacking HULK at once...Colossus, Logan, Beast, Kitty, Cyclops, The Dragon(5 X-men backing him up)...Unless your saying that they are all inept they all should have gotten some sort of offensive action against the HULK. Thats just the opening scene. And unless your saying Cyclops (the ALPHA 1 Mutant) max powered blast for several seconds is just blowing in the wind that should have taken HULK down a couple notches ( 😉 ankur29) And no doubt HULK was paying most of his attention to Colossus as he should W/Emma, Beast, Kitty, The Dragon attacking also... Colossus can do the most physical damage to him...W/Logan hanging in a tree from a backhand, and Cyclops falling in and out of consciousness. It seemed like it was a longer fight because Kitty trapped him in the ground... Which then all the X-men thought was the end of the fight so they were sitting around BSing about tonights pot roast. And Colossus saving grace from unconsciousness was Logan coming back in then Juggs (lite) then 11 other X-somethings from "the family". BTW not one of Colossus's punches or blows effected or got even a reaction from the HULK at all (unlike Cyclops and Logans)... In fact when Colossus tried Him in the test of strength it didn't look as HULK was even trying. It was very easy to see that Colossus's punches didn't faze HULK in the least...While Ben's punches were causing The HULK definent discomfort. And how often does someone in a fight NOT look angry?
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Originally posted by Tony StarkI was talking about the second part of the fight after Kitty stopped it and it basically restarted with a thunderclap that put Kitty out, then you see Colossus slugging it out with Hulk alone, Beast and Emma were running to join in. It was Hulk vs. Colossus, Emma & Beast after that. I suggest you look at all of the scans. You can see Hulk swinging directly at Colossus in at least two panels. I think it's pretty impressive to last as long as he did considering the help he had. Hulk was even screaming and yelling during the battle but Colossus stayed on his feet. And in the test of strength to me the look on Hulks face shows he is putting SOME effort into their game of mercy. The second panel you see him straining with his eyes closed. And to say Thing damaged him more is absurd when neither did any damage other than jar his head back.
😕Opening page in the fight 6 X-men are attacking HULK at once...Colossus, Logan, Beast, Kitty, Cyclops, The Dragon(5 X-men backing him up)...Unless your saying that they are all inept they all should have gotten some sort of offensive action against the HULK. Thats just the opening scene. And unless your saying Cyclops (the ALPHA 1 Mutant) max powered blast for several seconds is just blowing in the wind that should have taken HULK down a couple notches ( 😉 ankur29) And no doubt HULK was paying most of his attention to Colossus as he should W/Emma, Beast, Kitty, The Dragon attacking also... Colossus can do the most physical damage to him...W/Logan hanging in a tree from a backhand, and Cyclops falling in and out of consciousness. It seemed like it was a longer fight because Kitty trapped him in the ground... Which then all the X-men thought was the end of the fight so they were sitting around BSing about tonights pot roast. And Colossus saving grace from unconsciousness was Logan coming back in then Juggs (lite) then 11 other X-somethings from "the family". BTW not one of Colossus's punches or blows effected or got even a reaction from the HULK at all (unlike Cyclops and Logans)... In fact when Colossus tried Him in the test of strength it didn't look as HULK was even trying. It was very easy to see that Colossus's punches didn't faze HULK in the least...While Ben's punches were causing The HULK definent discomfort. And how often does someone in a fight NOT look angry?
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BTW this is not really a thread to discuss this in. You trolled the Sasquatch thread also and I suggest you take this topic somewhere else.
I would say Hulk gave Colossus a pretty big endorsement by his comments. He's been doing nothing but talking smack in WWH so far.
In their contest of strength the second panel does look to me Hulk is putting some effort into that match. His kneck muscles look to be straining and as snoop said he had his eyes closed.
Originally posted by ankur29
I think colussus is lightly superior to thing in strength terms or just about equal bouth are class 100's but not that far into this category as juggeranut or hulk is, but neither shoudl be allowed to stand toe to toe with a guy that could posiblly bench millions of tons even without being in this current WWH incarnation as their limits are far below this(they are capable of liftinga thousand ytons or a few at most).HUlk only engages them in combat to sell comics because he doesn't have anyone else as strong as himself to fight well not yet (here's hoping sentry is established as the strongest). Howver ben did better because it was a different writer to teh colossus hulk fight,he has history with hulk (a constant rival;which he should not be) and hulk already looked as if Human torch had taken him down a notch. Collusus is way more durable than the thing but his mistake was engaging hulk in a ocntest of strength the hulk is thousand of times stronger than colosus and thing it's a fact if written with logic colosus or thing shoudl not be able to stand up to him at all , but accept it it's a comic..............BTW i forget what my point was