Ultimate Colossus, and Colossus Respect Thread

The Nimrods have the ability to counter any mutant powers after engaging them in combat after awhile. In Namor's case they started to take mess with the humidity to dry him out . I was actually impressed with Colossus though about half a dozen Nimrods saw him as the biggest threat at that location and had to hold him down together as they figured out a way get passed his durability and strength. They did manage to break his arm but the fact that it toke half a dozen of them were as just one Nimrod is slaughtering others is rather impressive, it toke the threat of an Omega Level mutant to get them to ignore Colossus even after they broke his arm.

They say something about his strength being 1.5 tons for every pound and compensated for it so does that mean his durability is some how linked to his strength level? and if so and he can withstand blows from adamantium then I wonder how Logan's bones would fare haha. Seems the Nimrods can increase their strength if they had to go over whatever 1.5 tons x (insert colossus' current weight) is in strength.

I could be wrong and maybe I am but I think that's the writers sneaky way of saying big C is Class 100. Hence the need for a half dozen Nimorods to take him out and even then he was kicking some ass. It only took one to take Namor out.

Probably, Colossus has been a Class 100 for quite a few years now and could be their way of finally shutting up those that try to say he isn't.

Namor is able to rip one apart like Colossus but the Nimrods were smart to target his water dependency issue so Colossus would be the next psychically strongest mutant there with Rockslide who supposedly is a Class 70 (and Colossus can whoop his ass hard so yeah def a Class 100) now being a second (depending on how weak Namor was getting). I think its the first actual on panel time we've seen anything ever break through or in this case just plain break Colossus's steel skin.

Is he still at 500lbs? Are they saying he's in the 750 ton range, or is me being tired, making me misinterpret the lbs to tons thing?

No I think you're doing it right but if its is what they're saying then I think thats probably taking into account the whole 'desperation' thing. Remember in the past even when he was a teenager he was able to go toe to toe with Gladiator even and either out muscle or be even with some of the really big name people. Of course those times were either him in a complete rage, not holding back or other such times so his 'Max' strength so to speak. We've seen lots of other marvel muscle men lift and be much stronger than the whole 100 tons thing but they are still labaled as Class 100. I think thats probably the 'strength' they were figuring out and then over coming that level you don't ever see unless its desperate times and he's not holding anything back at all. As for his weight.... he's been 500 lbs for what twenty years now and he's a lot bigger now then he was then so he might be mover that when he steels up but you never know comics like to do the numbers their own way.

Marvel nowadays seems to be going well beyond 100 tons strength as well much like DC has been doing for years now but Marvel has only done officially on random over the years. I've always been a believer that the Class System for strength isn't suppose to mean maximum strength but minimum strength instead and if what the Nimrod's were calculating was right and given feats that go beyond 100 tons it just might be so.

Actually I'm surprised it is not a little bit higher. I'm aware that 100 ton range includes every character at or above 100 tons. I guess it is just strange to me, that they kind of capped it off in that area.

Yea, Colossus' strength being capped up at the level just doesn't sit right with me. Placing a set limit on any character who's that strong is a bad idea in my opinion, and if the limit PtGriff said is right (750 tons or so.), it's pretty damn low. Colossus should be able to lift thousands and thousands of tons. Let's hope it just gets forgotten.

Colossus also cracking like that under pressure doesn't make things anybetter for him.

This isn't Colossus' best day.

was very strange seeing them literally break his arm

Originally posted by jalek moye
was very strange seeing them literally break his arm

That it was, I've seen in it Exiles with their mimic and all but thats a different character with his own limits. Colossus of 616 has never really had anything like that happen before and I guess if anyone was ever going to do it then it had to be half a dozen sentinels from the future built to adapt to and counter any and all mutant powers. Makes me kinda wonder how they expect to stop them since unless they do it quickly they'll just adapt and be immuned within a few seconds. Kinda wondering how they are going to fix him too, we going to see Petey in a sling for a while or something?

As for the seeming cap on him, my guess is they probably just plucked a number from out of their asses and it'll be reconnted after Second Coming or just other wise ignored or something. Seems like something they had to put to cause him an injury or something since so far in the X-Men since he's been back nothing has really caused him much hurt...other than in WWH but Hulk was kicking everyone's butt in that regardless of how unbelieveable much of it was. They probably thought they'd have to show some kind of weakness or that like other Marvel strongmen he won't always come out of a fight unharmed or something.

It was surprsing seeing him crack up just before they broke his arm its very unlike Colossus to do that he didn't even do that in WWH he still seemed to wanna fight and seemed just really pissed off. I'm chalking it up to either seriously bad writing or utter and complete surprise that something was actually going to get through that metal of his....more so the former though.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Colossus also cracking like that under pressure doesn't make things anybetter for him.

This isn't Colossus' best day.

As for the strength reference I'd say it's a pretty good nod. Because guys like Thing have been shown lifting 85 tons, She-Hulk lifting 75 tons, Rogue lifting 47 tons, and Doc Samson(with short hair) lifting 25 tons. All on panel.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Is he still at 500lbs? Are they saying he's in the 750 ton range, or is me being tired, making me misinterpret the lbs to tons thing?

The handbooks put him at 500lbs, but he weighs over half a ton, nearly 2.

He's so heavy he's had to switch back to human form because he was affecting the flight capability of the blackbird.

And several times on panel they've stated that he weighs somewhere around a ton and a half.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Is he still at 500lbs? Are they saying he's in the 750 ton range, or is me being tired, making me misinterpret the lbs to tons thing?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I could be wrong and maybe I am but I think that's the writers sneaky way of saying big C is Class 100. Hence the need for a half dozen Nimorods to take him out and even then he was kicking some ass. It only took one to take Namor out.

Originally posted by jalek moye
was very strange seeing them literally break his arm

We now monitor Hulk strength during WWH arc. 😛

Originally posted by vansonbee
You should read other tie-in comics. Really 😛

Anyone else notice that they put all the 'muscle' mutants on the bridge with just a couple of others with energy powers?

Originally posted by vansonbee
You should read other tie-in comics. Really 😛

(sorry for the double post, I accidently hit the reply instead of edit button)

Yeah regardless of how many he toke on you'd probably find Colossus also taking on as many but also remember this. Only one of them toke down Namor when they started countering his powers and they were able to do it through a 'smart means'. With Colossus they actually had to resort to psychical violence or a 'dumb means' in each to stop him and increase themselves to out muscle the guy, is there no other means to stop Colossus but out muscling him?

We've seen for years now that Colossus is among the 'strong man group' of Marvel and its actually really good to see that Marvel has really given a show of that other than just random moments to show it here and there like they've always done. Granted, it wasn't too good a showing since his arm was broken and all but even so it was still one.

So basically it took 5 or 6 Class 100 beings to hold Colossus down while one bent his arm. I recall the next panel still shows big C fighting away. He may not have lasted much longer but he was still kicking.....literally.

Considering he's over a ton, yeah....that's basically correct.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
So basically it took 5 or 6 Class 100 beings to hold Colossus down while one bent his arm. I recall the next panel still shows big C fighting away. He may not have lasted much longer but he was still kicking.....literally.

half a dozen of them who were all adapted to be stronger than Colossus so that they could actually hurt/hold him and yeah he was still fighting back kicking them off and everything up until Legion came. The fact that even when Colossus was injuried he was still the biggest threat until and Omega came into play was something. Aren't they sending in 5 nimrods in each raid so Colossus basically had one whole wave and some extra instantly go and attack him.