Originally posted by Demarest
Listen LanaThe view regarding God that is set forth consistently in the Bible is this: He did not come from anywhere. No one made the Creator of the universe. He had no beginning, and will have no ending. He is the eternal, self-existing Being. The testimony of the Scriptures is this:
God is “everlasting” in nature (Isa. 40:28), which is to say, he is “eternal” as to his very essence (Rom. 16:26; 1 Tim. 1:17). His existence is “from everlasting to everlasting.” Before the material creation was spoken into existence, he always was (Psa. 90:2).
Give evidence to support that, and I'll consider it.
BTW, you can't use the bible to prove something from the bible. Doesn't work that way.
Originally posted by Lana
No. Because that is not at all what I believe happened. I don't follow things based on faith. Want me to think something is true? Give me cold hard evidence to support it.You can't even answer where God came from or who made him.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
lets see. trafficking drugs vs. giving your life for all mankind. which is the bigger scarifice?
I believe he wasn't talking about sacrifice. He was proving Jesus was a criminal.
If Mist were to do something illegal by law, he would be considered a criminal, no matter if it was for his religion.
Jesus did something illegal. He was a criminal, was convicted, and punished. End of story.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
you do know that god and christ are two seperate beings, dont you?
Yes I do. I'd wager that I know a lot more about Christianity and the history of it than many Christians, as well.
There's nothing to prove that Jesus was divine, or nothing more than someone who was delusional. You cannot use the bible to prove the bible, which is ultimately nothing but stories written many years after Jesus' lifetime, and is heavily contradictory.
Originally posted by Demarest
Listen LanaThe view regarding God that is set forth consistently in the Bible is this: He did not come from anywhere. No one made the Creator of the universe. He had no beginning, and will have no ending. He is the eternal, self-existing Being. The testimony of the Scriptures is this:
God is “everlasting” in nature (Isa. 40:28), which is to say, he is “eternal” as to his very essence (Rom. 16:26; 1 Tim. 1:17). His existence is “from everlasting to everlasting.” Before the material creation was spoken into existence, he always was (Psa. 90:2).
That makes no freakin sense to me.
Originally posted by Demarest
what way? the bible were written and documented evidence as to what happened in the Old Testament and the New testament
Because there is nothing else that exists that corroborates what is written in the bible.
Documented? Since it was written AFTER all the events in it supposedly took place....I don't think so.
Originally posted by Demarest
what way? the bible were written and documented evidence as to what happened in the Old Testament and the New testament
You used quotes from the bible to attempt to prove an opinion from a religion that is based on that bible.
If you can't see what's wrong with that... I'd suggest some sort of professional help.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
thats what people usually say when they have no comeback. it makes perfect sense to me.
But that doesn't make sense to me. It doesn' have anything to do with "comebacks" or winning an argument. That doesn't make sense to me--doesn't seem right, plausible, logical, whatever--and that is precisely the reason that I am not a Christian.
Originally posted by Lana
Yes I do. I'd wager that I know a lot more about Christianity and the history of it than many Christians, as well.There's nothing to prove that Jesus was divine, or nothing more than someone who was delusional. You cannot use the bible to prove the bible, which is ultimately nothing but stories written many years after Jesus' lifetime, and is heavily contradictory.