Re: Vegetarians are hypocrites?
Originally posted by Rave X
I used to be a vegetarian, I think for over 5 or 6 years. Though a month or two ago I decided to start eating meat again. Why? Simple. One word: hypocrite.
There is almost in everything something from an animal (cheese, chocolate, whine gums, etc) and I have a leather jacket and leather shoes.
My bf and I had an interesting discussion yesterday. Since I do still want to be a veggie, I asked him what his point of view is on that matter. He said things like "I dont mind eating cow, pig and sheep, they are created by mankind purely for food. Though I do not eat horse meat, a horse is created by mother earth, purely to work for and with us, therefore not to eat. That makes it more that 'a piece of meat'" and "if a chicken from our neighbours walks into our garden, it becomes a 'buddy', and therefore its more than a piece of meat" and he admitted being hypocrite himself, since he does eat everything, so he probably eats horse meat to.
Now my points of discussion:
#1 - Just stop eating meat doesn't make you a vegetarian.
#2 - When are you a 'good' vegetarian? When it feels good for yourself?
#3 - They should make guidelines for vegetarians, so no one can get confused and all veggies know what they can and cant eat without going through trouble searching.
#4 - How far will you go? Where do you draw the line? Is there a line? Why not order a pizza with salami and get the salami off and eat the pizza? Why not wear leather?
These are discussionpoint, that does not mean I agree with them. I'm dying to know what you guys have to say about it.
I dont know how you can go 5-6 years without eating meating and then just suddenly give up your morals just like that... Eating animals is cruel. I myself am Vegan, I dont think it is enough to just go Vegetarian because -- all the animal by-products still mean cruelity & suffering.
Wearing leather is just like wearing dead animal skins - which a lot of our leather is made from Kangaroos (and cows, pigs, cats, dogs..so on)
There are a lot of alternatives out there, and I use to be a meat eater but I dont feel like Im missing out at all. 😬
Anyways... I hear a lot of non-strict vegetarians usually go back to eating flesh eventually, which is really disturbing.
Can someone explain to me how it is there are many people in the southern US that eat meat, fried foods galore, butter & the like, and smoke tobacco and yet they feel perfectly fine and live to sometimes 90-100?
Just one of the reasons I dont buy into alot of the "studies" being done today about what is bad for humans to ingest.
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Can someone explain to me how it is there are many people in the southern US that eat meat, fried foods galore, butter & the like, and smoke tobacco and yet they feel perfectly fine and live to sometimes 90-100?
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Can someone explain to me how it is there are many people in the southern US that eat meat, fried foods galore, butter & the like, and smoke tobacco and yet they feel perfectly fine and live to sometimes 90-100?Just one of the reasons I dont buy into alot of the "studies" being done today about what is bad for humans to ingest.
There will always be exceptions to rules though, or even many cases where the accepted wiser path proves not to be of much of an advantage. It's usually a matter of playing the odds; not a clear-cut guarantee one way or the other.
Originally posted by botankus
I'm assuming I'm not interpreting some British slang here by saying this, but wouldn't you think eating a moose is a bit drastic for a vegetarian??
I believe Blue Dragon means mousse.
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Can someone explain to me how it is there are many people in the southern US that eat meat, fried foods galore, butter & the like, and smoke tobacco and yet they feel perfectly fine and live to sometimes 90-100?Just one of the reasons I dont buy into alot of the "studies" being done today about what is bad for humans to ingest.
If I were a betting man, I'd place money on the fact that the people of whom you speak have a much more laid back lifestyle and so are subjected to a reduced level of stress.
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
There will always be exceptions to rules though, or even many cases where the accepted wiser path proves not to be of much of an advantage. It's usually a matter of playing the odds; not a clear-cut guarantee one way or the other..
You dont find it odd though that these exceptions are contained to a certain geographical area for the most part?
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Can someone explain to me how it is there are many people in the southern US that eat meat, fried foods galore, butter & the like, and smoke tobacco and yet they feel perfectly fine and live to sometimes 90-100?Just one of the reasons I dont buy into alot of the "studies" being done today about what is bad for humans to ingest.
i'd like to see such figures.
granted its quite possible to be in a sweet genetic disposition to live a long life dispite years of torture to one's own body. but i doubt such cases are so widespread and only in the south no less.
Many times it's in the gene pool that one does not succumb to diseases. I have read that many nationalities that are more European and such with out the terrible diet of the US stand a better chance of not getting diseases. The longer one lives in the US and takes on the unhealthy diet those genes are passed down and the more the passing down on not so healthy genes accures the more likely they are prone to disease. ...But now Europe is getting worse also....Fast food and such junk.
Originally posted by PVS
doesnt prove anything. could simply be urban legend, which everyone has known forever.by that logic, pop rocks + cocacola is lethal
PVS its not an urban legend. But, once again, I dont care enough to spend time hunting down some stastics spewed onto a webpage to validate my point. I know its true and thats all that matters to me dear.
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
PVS its not an urban legend. But, once again, I dont care enough to spend time hunting down some stastics spewed onto a webpage to validate my point. I know its true and thats all that matters to me dear.
it just doesnt make any sense, thats all.
HOWEVER...it is well known that many people in southern regions tend to live a more laid back and relaxed lifestyle. its also well known that enough stress can be far more harmful than a million cigarettes and a herd of devoured cattle.
Originally posted by PVSThis is very true...Stress reduction plays a huge part.
it just doesnt make any sense, thats all.HOWEVER...it is well known that many people in southern regions tend to live a more laid back and relaxed lifestyle. its also well known that enough stress can be far more harmful than a million cigarettes and a herd of devoured cattle.