wormtail vs siruis black

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wormtail vs siruis black

who do you think would win between wortail and siruis black and why

sirius ,wormtail is awimp and as sirius says wormtail always follows the school bullys ,i dnt think wormtail has many powers at all ..........

true, Sirius is a stronger and bigger guy and does seem to know more spells than Wormtail, and like sammii just said Wormtail is a small pathetic runt, who likes to stick with people who are powerful so that he can get more power or something like that.

I think Neville could beat Wormtail. I really do. 😐

Siruis would tear Wormtail apart, Limb from Limb. 😐

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yep... like people said hes stronger... and hes cooler!

Er, is everyone forgetting that Sirius has already fought with Wormtail - he was outfought and outsmarted by Wormtail in the one occasion that they fought!

Originally posted by TheSun
Er, is everyone forgetting that Sirius has already fought with Wormtail - he was outfought and outsmarted by Wormtail in the one occasion that they fought!

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Wormtail's intended to frame Sirus. He blew himself Up.

They never Really Fought.

true well said barker

Originally posted by Barker
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Wormtail's intended to frame Sirus. He blew himself Up.

They never Really Fought.


If Wormtail blew himself up, he'd be with the other 13 dead people. He was quicker and smarter than Sirius, and Sirius himself admits that he was beaten - something along the lines of 'you got the best of me once... but not again'. Plus, Wormtail is a talented wizard, even if you judge by the fact that he can perform Avada Kedavra - a curse which needs a powerful bit of magic behind it. In a straight duel I'd put the sensible money on Wormtail.

It's true he has a sort of savage cunning and level of sneakiness that has served him well, but I doubt, in a straight out duel, that he would be able to overcome Sirius. Sirius came looking for him, Wormtale was so eager to avoid this that he cut of his finger and faked his own death - I would assume if he had a chance to defeat Sirius he wouldn't have gone to such lengths to avoid an actual confrontation.

It's been implied in the books that he isn't such a great wizard, more a follower, and clearly a coward. Though it is true he got the drop on Sirius once, it wasn't much of a victory, after all, he spent the next 14 or so years pretending to be a rat, was seen right through by Crookshanks, and if it weren't for Harry and the rest Sirius would probably have taken care of him in the POA.

And by the sixth book all he is doing is grovelling around in Snape's hovel making drinks and trying to listen at doors while Voldermort's half way useful servants are out spying, killing and doing all that havoc wreaking stuff (or locked up.)

all good points, but what you have to remember is that WORMTAIL IS NOT VERY GOOD! sirius would as put well above, 'rip him limb from limb.' it's incredible you failed to notice wormtails greatest weakness. he searches for power, offer him a place at you right hand or something then stab him in the back while he's not looking.

True, I can just imagine Sirius leaping from the shadows as Padfoot, scaring Wormtale half to death, and then finishing the other half.

Wormtail is certainly shrewd, but a very poor wizard. In book 4, Voldemort himself says that Wormtail was pathetic at magic, and unable to perform the kind of spell that would help revive the darklord.

I think he was very lucky in his outwitting of sirius, since he had the power of deception on his side.

Originally posted by zombieman
Wormtail is certainly shrewd, but a very poor wizard. In book 4, Voldemort himself says that Wormtail was pathetic at magic, and unable to perform the kind of spell that would help revive the darklord.

I think he was very lucky in his outwitting of sirius, since he had the power of deception on his side.


I don't think it was luck, he was extroadinarily quick in realising what was going on and cooking up a complex framing of Sirius. Plus we know he can cast the most powerful spells - Avada Kedavra, blowing up an entire street. Plus have we ever seen Sirius win a fight? He got beat by Wormtail, Dementors, werewolf Lupin, Bellatrix... I still say the sensible money is on Wormtail.

Originally posted by TheSun
I don't think it was luck, he was extroadinarily quick in realising what was going on and cooking up a complex framing of Sirius. Plus we know he can cast the most powerful spells - Avada Kedavra, blowing up an entire street. Plus have we ever seen Sirius win a fight? He got beat by Wormtail, Dementors, werewolf Lupin, Bellatrix... I still say the sensible money is on Wormtail.

Was Wormtail working for Voldemort at the time? Yes

Was Wormtail switched to as Secret Keeper? Yes.

So why would He throw the Fight? To frame Sirius, and Keep James's Best friend out of the Picture, so Voldie Could concentrate on Harry..

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i think its obvious here sirius obviously ...wormtail is a follower not a leader and basically pathetic

Originally posted by ladygrim
i think its obvious here sirius obviously ...wormtail is a follower not a leader and basically pathetic

I don't know why you say that - what is the evidence that Wormtail isn't very good?

have you read the books ....

Sirius wins, end of story