Originally posted by ladygrim
have you read the books ....
Ive read all the books several times and its only coz he can turn into a rat that he escaped sirius n lupin ,and they were a bit occupied coz lupin was turning into a werewolf OR HAVE YOU NOT READ THE BOOKS and even voldemort says wormtail only urned to him out of FEAR and during his time with volly he,s not actually acheived much
Originally posted by sammii
Ive read all the books several times and its only coz he can turn into a rat that he escaped sirius n lupin ,and they were a bit occupied coz lupin was turning into a werewolf OR HAVE YOU NOT READ THE BOOKS and even voldemort says wormtail only urned to him out of FEAR and during his time with volly he,s not actually acheived much
Originally posted by TheSun
Yes I've read the books, I don't understand why you keep asking me that. Again, all we have here are opinions - when discussing literary characters noone is right and noone is wrong, there are only good arguments backed up with supporting evidence. Thus far I have, I hope, clearly demonstrated my interpretation of Pettigrew and provided sufficient evidence to substantiate my claims. All you've done is shout 'HAVE YOU READ THE BOOKS!'as if you believe yourself to somehow be correct.
thats the first time i asked you if youve read the books and that was in replie to what you said to me actually so before you go giving mw crap ,yes it is true we all have our own opinions and that was the 1st time ive asked you if youve read the books so next time b4 blaming me get ya facts right
Originally posted by TheSun
Yup, and so far I've seen Wormtail evade the entire Ministry of magic, blow up an entire street, outsmart, outduel and frame Sirius for the crime he committed, hide from some of the most powerful wizards for more than a decade, escape once again from Sirius and Lupin, and he is the only person to find and bring back to life the most powerful wizard the world has ever known. Please tell me what you have read in the books, or am I reading a different series altogether?
he revieled where james and lilly potter was to voldy ... then converting from good to bad this itself shows cowardness not believing that good can defeat evil . As sammii mentions the only reason he escapses sirius and lupin was A- lupin was turning into a frigging werewolf B- he converted back into the rat . shows wit not courage and bravery and Wit wont win you a battle ,
13yrs he coward out of the battle between him and sirius again turning into the frigging rat WOAH hes bloody hard for doing that you know ...where as sirius has spent 13yrs in azkban for doing nothing managing to keep his sanity you tell me if wormtail could that ........
Reason for wormtail finding voldy again
'VOLDEMORT
Out of fear, not loyalty. Still you
have proved yourself useful these past
few months Wormtail.'
Originally posted by ladygrim
he revieled where james and lilly potter was to voldy ... then converting from good to bad this itself shows cowardness not believing that good can defeat evil . As sammii mentions the only reason he escapses sirius and lupin was A- lupin was turning into a frigging werewolf B- he converted back into the rat . shows wit not courage and bravery and Wit wont win you a battle ,13yrs he coward out of the battle between him and sirius again turning into the frigging rat WOAH hes bloody hard for doing that you know ...where as sirius has spent 13yrs in azkban for doing nothing managing to keep his sanity you tell me if wormtail could that ........
Reason for wormtail finding voldy again
'VOLDEMORT
Out of fear, not loyalty. Still you
have proved yourself useful these past
few months Wormtail.'
Originally posted by sammii
well if its me you were talking about , you accused me of continiously asking you weather youve read the books ,which i only said once after you said it to me ,but fair enugh we,ll agree to dissagree 😄
Am I right in thinking no one but Sirius knew the Wormtale was the secret keeper for the Potters? Everyone thought it was Sirius yes? And they thought he had gone off and killed Wormtale and a bunch a muggles because he had gone bad and joined Voldermort.
Now, if Wormtale had any chance of beating Sirius, of maybe killing him, why try so hard to avoid a real fight by faking death? If he had stood and fought and killed Sirius, well, everyone would have thought he was a hero, taking out the deranged Black who betrayed the Potters, after all, it would have been his word against the dead Sirius who everybody believed was guilty anyway.
But no, he tricked, and then hid, and hid, and hid until he couldn't hide any more, at which point he was at Sirius's complete mercy despite the poor condition Sirius was in after so long in Azkaban
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Am I right in thinking no one but Sirius knew the Wormtale was the secret keeper for the Potters? Everyone thought it was Sirius yes? And they thought he had gone off and killed Wormtale and a bunch a muggles because he had gone bad and joined Voldermort.Now, if Wormtale had any chance of beating Sirius, of maybe killing him, why try so hard to avoid a real fight by faking death? If he had stood and fought and killed Sirius, well, everyone would have thought he was a hero, taking out the deranged Black who betrayed the Potters, after all, it would have been his word against the dead Sirius who everybody believed was guilty anyway.
But no, he tricked, and then hid, and hid, and hid until he couldn't hide any more, at which point he was at Sirius's complete mercy despite the poor condition Sirius was in after so long in Azkaban
I think Sirius would blow Wormtail off the face of the earth in a fair fight. I am basing this on the fact that Wormtail was bloody terrified when confronted by Sirius at the end of book 3. He was a quivering wreck.
Also, evidence that Pettigrew is a below-par wizard comes from near the end of book four. In the chapter where Voldemort addresses each of the Deatheater he descibes him as "weak" or a "poor wizard." Something along those lines anyway, I haven't got a copy to hand.