i have doubts about quinlan being a sith

Dark Jedi don't need to use the darkside to be dark.

Dark Jedi are just former Jedi who have turned away from the Jedi Order and live their lifes how they see fit without some order telling them what they can and can't do. If they want to love than they love. (That can turn to anger and greed and all that razzle dazzle and usally end up with the dark side of the force being used) But any jedi who doesn't follow the Jedi code is a dark Jedi. They don't need to use the darkside at all. It happens in some cases but...you know....

Jedi - Good

Dark Jedi - Neutral, They can choose what to do.

Sith - Evil

Exactly.

Senator Viento and Sheyf Tinte were NOT innocent people. Viento was a traitor to the Republic and had Valorum murdered. Sheyf Tinte was a murderer who fed Quin's parents to the Anzati. In Quin's favor, he never killed anyone who didn't have it coming...hell, he spared Villie numerous times.

And Dark Jedi are just any darksider...doesn't have to be a former Jedi. Bad name, I know

Originally posted by kamikz
Exactly.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Senator Viento and Sheyf Tinte were NOT innocent people. Viento was a traitor to the Republic and had Valorum murdered. Sheyf Tinte was a murderer who fed Quin's parents to the Anzati. In Quin's favor, he never killed anyone who didn't have it coming...hell, he spared Villie numerous times.

Thumbs up and all for not reading my post correctly 🙄

Ok, yes, I missed the 'others' part....however, who did Quin kill who was innocent?

Originally posted by Treeherder
Dark Jedi don't need to use the darkside to be dark.

Dark Jedi are just former Jedi who have turned away from the Jedi Order and live their lifes how they see fit without some order telling them what they can and can't do. If they want to love than they love. (That can turn to anger and greed and all that razzle dazzle and usally end up with the dark side of the force being used) But any jedi who doesn't follow the Jedi code is a dark Jedi. They don't need to use the darkside at all. It happens in some cases but...you know....

Originally posted by exanda kane
[B]Nah theyre completely different. A dark Jedi is simply...a dark Jedi. A Jedi who uses the darkside. A Sith has to be trained in the Sith lore, arts and code etc. Only a Sith Master can teach the Sith ways, and the Sith ways are only accessible to fellow Sith. Its like a whole new ball game with the Force if your a Sith.

Stop trying to make an argument out of nothing Mist. To any normal cinema-going person or even a relative fan, both terms are interchangable, they do not care for the intricacies that define each other.
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Im sorry, I thought this was the Expanded Universe forum 🙄 Therefore Im right, so shut the hell up. 😐

Originally posted by Treeherder
Dark Jedi don't need to use the darkside to be dark.

Dark Jedi are just former Jedi who have turned away from the Jedi Order and live their lifes how they see fit without some order telling them what they can and can't do. If they want to love than they love. (That can turn to anger and greed and all that razzle dazzle and usally end up with the dark side of the force being used) But any jedi who doesn't follow the Jedi code is a dark Jedi. They don't need to use the darkside at all. It happens in some cases but...you know....

🤨 That doesnt make them a dark Jedi, that makes them an EX Jedi. What is a dark Jedi then, if they dont use the darkside?

Have you even read anything involving Jedi?🤨 You know how many Jedi walked away from the Order during the Clone Wars? They didnt become dark Jedi. Only the ones who fell to the darkside became dark Jedi.

Im sorry, I thought this was the Expanded Universe forum 🙄 Therefore Im right, so shut the hell up. 😐

Yet your deliberatedly being a dickhead now. My argument speaks for itself and stop being childish, so next time I suggest to keep quiet.

And Lightsnake, I was using hyperbole anyway. I doubt Quinlan did, but I would estimate a guess that he certainly would have been reckless with civilian lives.

And just a thought,, some of the Kiffex/Kiffar guards may have been innocent guards, not sure though.

And Mist, despite your child-like mannerisms, you have a point about the ex-jedi. Whoever said that any jedi who leave the Order is a dark jedi is wrong. Infact Jedi that leave the Order for reasons other than mass murder can usually still be called Jedi, they just do not act on behalf of the Council.

Quinlan didn't kill any of the Sheyf's guards, though...that was all Skorr, Kadrian and Dooku. Admittedly, Quin was reckless, but mostly with himself and Khaleen. He didn't kill K'kruhk when he could have...though he was about to kill Tholme-arguably, Tholme faked suicide for a reason. And he stopped the cover to save Khaleen...he's a pretty selfless guy when all's said and done, just a bit of a blind one....

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Quinlan didn't kill any of the Sheyf's guards, though...that was all Skorr, Kadrian and Dooku. Admittedly, Quin was reckless, but mostly with himself and Khaleen. He didn't kill K'kruhk when he could have...though he was about to kill Tholme-arguably, Tholme faked suicide for a reason. And he stopped the cover to save Khaleen...he's a pretty selfless guy when all's said and done, just a bit of a blind one....

True. he avoided killing Kolar aswell, although that was at the start of his fall.

The frames from the source i have are not too clear, however Quinlan doesn't use the lightsaber offensively, only force push. But he may have had a lil' hack and slash with the guards.

And please remember its just a thought.

NP, but at that time he wouldn't have killed his own people, not his own kin's guards..

Originally posted by ArthasKnight
Yeah but it's easy to confuse the Sith and Dark Jedi 'cause they are basically the same thing. The terms are almost interchangeable.

Different time. It just means that those particular Dark Jedi integrated in

Originally posted by calvin44
Dark Jedi are force-sensitives that use the dark side of the force instead of the light side, and are trained in the Jedi arts.

Sith - Ancient Sith as in they are a humanoid race who practiced a 'dark magic'. Outcast Dark Jedi who rebelled against the Order intergrated with the Sith race, making themself Dark lords Of the Sith etc.

New Order Sith (generalised term) - Any race, follow Sith ideals etc. Can be Jedi trained in the Sith teachings or a person trained in the Sith arts from the beginning.

Dark Jedi - A Jedi turned to the darkside with no Sith training.

Yes, their all generalisations; do not argue with these points otherwise I will flame you. I merely posted this because for some reason people are having trouble distinguishing between them.

Thank you its just the other people kept saying the same thing for the sith as they did dark jedi

Well people arent always so clear, no worries its not your fault.

You know what's funny?

Mist is right.

Go away Rex 😱