Ryu vs.Spider-man vs.Wolverine

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Ok... let me help you out here... I brought up the fact that Ryu can bust mountains, knowing that spiderman can't take ANYWHERE near that kind of punishment.

As a counter you said various characters could, and that they hit spiderman... which was inadvertently saying that he DID have the durability to take such punishment.

So then I explicitly asked you to be sure, "DOES spiderman have mountain-level durability?"

You countered... after saying it wasn't PIS.

So by using this you have explicitly agreed.

"And yes I do know who morlun is... he killed spiderman and spiderman came back stronger.

When i said
"And to make such a hard punch Ryu needs some time to prepare."
I was talking about punch that can make a hole in mountain, but i didn't said it can kill Spider-man.
I think you just misunderstood me. Probably it is my falt, i din't expressed myself clearly. But that's only because my english is very far from top. Well, sorry.

Originally posted by samishe
When i said
"And to make such a hard punch Ryu needs some time to prepare."
I was talking about punch that can make a hole in mountain, but i didn't said it can kill Spider-man.
I think you just misunderstood me. Probably it is my falt, i din't expressed myself clearly. But that's only because my english is very far from top. Well, sorry.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You just said it again, that the punch couldn't kill spiderman... is that what you mean, that spiderman CAN take mountain bursting punches?

That's what i was trying to expalin, that he CAN take such punches and my argument was that he took punches from Hulk.

Originally posted by samishe
That's what i was trying to expalin, that he CAN take such punches and my argument was that he took punches from Hulk.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And I was saying he doesn't have mountain like durability, the such circumstances of hulk hitting him was with spiderman rolling the blow or something. In the forum a DIRECT hit from hulk at that strength would KILL spiderman.

Still it was a Hulk's punch. Even if Spider-man was rolling it was at least half as strong as if Hulk hit him directly. And i believe that Hulk hits MANY times stronger than Ryu.

Originally posted by samishe
Still it was a Hulk's punch. Even if Spider-man was rolling it was at least half as strong as if Hulk hit him directly. And i believe that Hulk hits MANY times stronger than Ryu.

My point is whether Spider-man has that level of durability, which he doesn't... ask the vulture, kraven, mysterio, etc... they don't bust mountains... Or venom, or carnage...

how about the ancient Vampire Kain comes in and kills all three of them before they have to worry about fighting eachother

Originally posted by Burning thought
how about the ancient Vampire Kain comes in and kills all three of them before they have to worry about fighting eachother

your point being?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yes hulk hits harder than ryu, but not better.

My point is whether Spider-man has that level of durability, which he doesn't... ask the vulture, kraven, mysterio, etc... they don't bust mountains... Or venom, or carnage...

Mysterio doesn't fight h2h. Neither does Vuture. And what about symbiots, i believe they hit very hard. At least many times harder than Spider-man.

Originally posted by samishe
Mysterio doesn't fight h2h. Neither does Vuture. And what about symbiots, i believe they hit very hard. At least many times harder than Spider-man.

The symbiotes aren't mountain-bursting strong and they have what it takes to defeat spiderman... even kill him.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Vulture and Kraven have seriously injured spiderman on many occasions...

The symbiotes aren't mountain-bursting strong and they have what it takes to defeat spiderman... even kill him.

Symbiots have what it takes to defeat even Hulk. And they don't need mountain-bursting punches to be that dangerous.

And when Vulture injured Spider-man he didn't do that with his bare hands. And Kraven is almost as strong as Spider-man and he uses different Haunting tricks.

Originally posted by samishe
Symbiots have what it takes to defeat even Hulk. And they don't need mountain-bursting punches to be that dangerous.

Originally posted by samishe
And when Vulture injured Spider-man he didn't do that with his bare hands. And Kraven is almost as strong as Spider-man and he uses different Haunting tricks.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Firstly hulk OWNS brock and cleutus... maybe, maybe the symbiote could merge with hulk, but that would strengthen them... besides you are off on a tangent... You are talking about symboites vs hulk, instead of saying that spiderman doesn't have the durabilty of thing or colossus.

But spiderman is class 15 or so, he can't burst a mountain either... spiderman can get hurt by wolverine and wolverine lifts 800....

And you think Ryu wouldn't be hurt if Wolvie cuts him with his claws? Or you mean that Wolverine's PUNCHES could make any effect on Spidey? It's all crap written for Wolvie fanboys, just to make them proud of their "hero". Just like Daredevil beating Spider-man.
Spider-man doesn't have durability of Thing or Colossus but he still can take Ryu's hardest punch. And anyway during the fight Ryu wouldn't be able to execute his strongest punch because fight takes a lot of energy. And even if he managed to execute it, it wouldn't KO or kill Spider-man anyway. Besides of all i really doubt Ryu will manage to hit Spider-man at all. Ryu is fast but Spider-man IS FASTER. And his reflexes ARE BETTER.

Originally posted by samishe
And you think Ryu wouldn't be hurt if Wolvie cuts him with his claws? Or you mean that Wolverine's PUNCHES could make any effect on Spidey? It's all crap written for Wolvie fanboys, just to make them proud of their "hero". Just like Daredevil beating Spider-man.
Spider-man doesn't have durability of Thing or Colossus but he still can take Ryu's hardest punch. And anyway during the fight Ryu wouldn't be able to execute his strongest punch because fight takes a lot of energy. And even if he managed to execute it, it wouldn't KO or kill Spider-man anyway. Besides of all i really doubt Ryu will manage to hit Spider-man at all. Ryu is fast but Spider-man IS FASTER. And his reflexes ARE BETTER.

A yes or no would suffice.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And again you are filibustering to avoid my inital point, spiderman does NOT have mountain-like durability now does he?

A yes or no would suffice.

First tell me what kind of mountain it was that Ryu broke.

Ok, you know... never mind. I'll answer. No he doesn't have mountain-like durability. Now you answer my questions. Have you ever seen how trained soldiers break bricks? I'm sure you have. Now tell me does ordinary humen have brick-like durabilities? Hell no! But it doesn't mean that if such trained soldier will hit me in stomach i will die. Got my point?

Well since you want to bring training in here, it only helps my argument, since Ryu is VASTLY more trained then the likes of Spider-man and the others previously mentioned. 😄

Originally posted by samishe
Ok, you know... never mind. I'll answer. No he doesn't have mountain-like durability.

Originally posted by samishe
Now you answer my questions.

Sure man. 🙂

Originally posted by samishe
Have you ever seen how trained soldiers break bricks? I'm sure you have.

Originally posted by samishe
Now tell me does ordinary humen have brick-like durabilities? Hell no!

1. Inertia: We must keep in mind that bricks and mountains, etc, whilst durable cannot move, this makes a VAST difference in concepts and applications like striking power.

2. Proficiency: When something is stabbing it is applying high pressure in a low area, whilst something blunt is heavy pressure in a large area (like a hammer). Something slashing is in a line, therefore to break a brick you simply exert high pressure into a low area, if enough of the area is broken, the the structure crumbes from its own weight...

Its all science really, similar to why its harder to break something in half the more you do it, and why people can break bricks but cannot tear a telephone book with their bare hands. Or have a MUCH more difficult time, although it is softer...

Originally posted by samishe
But it doesn't mean that if such trained soldier will hit me in stomach i will die.

Originally posted by samishe
Got my point?

If that is your point, then I have it A.OK. 😎

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

Yes but I can simply hit you under the nose, in the adams apple, in the kidneys, temple, etc. To cause a fatal blow, and with MUCH less force.

Don't take this discussion personal. I don't wanna have my nose broken because of the comic books. 😄

Originally posted by samishe
Don't take this discussion personal. I don't wanna have my nose broken because of the comic books. 😄

Yeah, he is a nice dude, from what know. Trust me.