Originally posted by Blue nocturne
It's gouki http://www.fightersgeneration.com/fightgen/characters/akumaend.jpg
ryu was about the same power as akuma in alpha days, but now he is even stronger, but so is akumma(gouki).
The difference about ryu and rhino or thing , or anyone of them , is that ryu doesnt hurt only the bones and muscles , he is able to hit spiders internal direct organs with his tech, spider can be tough , but his internal organs arent made of steel.
Originally posted by Hoshi
ryu was about the same power as akuma in alpha days, but now he is even stronger, but so is akumma(gouki).
The difference about ryu and rhino or thing , or anyone of them , is that ryu doesnt hurt only the bones and muscles , he is able to hit spiders internal direct organs with his tech, spider can be tough , but his internal organs arent made of steel.
Actually they made 😮
Originally posted by Hoshi
ryu was about the same power as akuma in alpha days, but now he is even stronger, but so is akuma(gouki).
ryu was in alpha defitnly not on akuma's level!!!
ryu was then not even close to evil ryu's level, and evil ryu's level was not close too gouki's level then !!!!!!
ryu's level in sf3 further hen evil ryu's level. but evil ryu is faster and is stronger.
( dark hadou increases your strenght and speed )
1. Gouki
2. Oro
3. Gill
4. M. Bison
5. Evil Ryu
6. Ryu
soo ryu is 6th but after sf 3 third strike he is mutch stronger and higher
and soo ryu will still kicks spidey's ass hard!!
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You made spiderman as durable as a mountain, ryu's chi could probably burn that off...So Spiderman is as durable as a mountain?
One thing for sure. Hit that can make a hole in mountain cant kill Spider-man. He've been hit even harder.
And to make such a hard punch Ryu needs some time to prepare.
So it's slower than normal Ryu's punch, so it would be more easy for Spider to dodge it.
Originally posted by samisheSo you just contradicted yourself twice here... You just admitted that ryu isn't as durable as a mountain, but at the same exact time you are saying that he can take a hit that could take down a mountain.
One thing for sure. Hit that can make a hole in mountain cant kill Spider-man. He've been hit even harder.
Thats Plot Induced Stupidity. Spiderman isn't in that range of durability, unless he's captain universe... he gets wrecked by Morlun remember?
Originally posted by samishe
And to make such a hard punch Ryu needs some time to prepare.
It could be a long-ranged attack as well.
Originally posted by samishe1/10 of that damage would take spiderman out... and he doesn't need as much effort...
So it's slower than normal Ryu's punch, so it would be more easy for Spider to dodge it.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterThats Plot Induced Stupidity. Spiderman isn't in that range of durability, unless he's captain universe... he gets wrecked by Morlun remember?
You do know who Morlun is, right?
"Morlun had some degree of superhuman strength and durability, although the degree of this is open to debate. Morlun certainly had abilities beyond that of normal humans, as he was depicted as lifting massive objects and surviving what would be lethal circumstances. Peter claimed that Morlun hit harder than any foe he had ever battled, including the Hulk and Thor. However, since Morlun was draining his life force from him, it is likely that the resulting power drain made Morlun's blows feel more powerful than they actually were." From Wikipedia.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You said it indirectly,by allowing that feat to be used, you inadvertently said that spiderman has that level of durability. There is more than one way of saying things.
"You just admitted that ryu isn't as durable as a mountain, but at the same exact time you are saying that he can take a hit that could take down a mountain."
That's what you told me, and now read what i said above.
I said that Spider-man can take a hit that can make a hole in mountain.
I didn't even mentione name Ryu.
Originally posted by Hoshi
spider man cant win this one, he is a tough opponent , but ryu is in another level.
Fire power,tech,exp,will power,long range fighting, strengh , in all these points ryu is at least the same or superior than spider.It is not logical thinking he can win.
About fire power. You said Ryu uses hadukens only to finish the fight, so you shouldn't count it until you see Ryu defeating Spidey.
Tech and exp. Yeah i guess. But like a said before Spidey is also not an amature.
Will power. True but it is not like his will power is FAR above Spidey's (Read scans above.)
Strength. Hard to say, Spidey got an upgrade now. Before upgrade he was said to be class 10 strength and still was shown to be able to lift much more. Now after upgrade he's cosidered to be class 15 but i believe he can lift more then 15 tonnes now.
Plus his reflexes and speed are above Ryu's.
Ok... let me help you out here... I brought up the fact that Ryu can bust mountains, knowing that spiderman can't take ANYWHERE near that kind of punishment.
As a counter you said various characters could, and that they hit spiderman... which was inadvertently saying that he DID have the durability to take such punishment.
Originally posted by samishe
So can Hulk and Thing and Rhino... Spidey can take their hit, so he can take Ryu's.
So then I explicitly asked you to be sure, "DOES spiderman have mountain-level durability?"
You countered... after saying it wasn't PIS.
Originally posted by samishe
One thing for sure. Hit that can make a hole in mountain cant kill Spider-man. He've been hit even harder.
And to make such a hard punch Ryu needs some time to prepare.
So it's slower than normal Ryu's punch, so it would be more easy for Spider to dodge it.
So by using this you have explicitly agreed.
And yes I do know who morlun is... he killed spiderman and spiderman came back stronger.
