Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceWhat's unrealistic is Bats catching all 4 arms that are faster than he is @ the same time and in the same place. Can you honestly explain the mechanics of that?
It's not unrealistic if you're holding down Ock with an adhesive that managed to hold Superman for a short period of time.
I personally think that he's an overrated villain. Now, I liked the way he was portrayed in the animated series, but I'm a huge fan of the way Moline played him in the movie, but in the comics it seems that he's way too obsessed with taking out Spider-Man. At least Millar didn't kill off a villain to put more emphasis on Doc. It's just a personal taste thing. I don't like Electro either, and I think that Greenie is over-exposed. I'm a big fan of Venom, Kraven, Kingpin, and the more dark villains. If Morlun were written better, and hadn't came about while Venom had just died, then I would more than likely enjoy him better.
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
I personally think that he's an overrated villain. Now, I liked the way he was portrayed in the animated series, but I'm a huge fan of the way Moline played him in the movie, but in the comics it seems that he's way too obsessed with taking out Spider-Man. At least Millar didn't kill off a villain to put more emphasis on Doc. It's just a personal taste thing. I don't like Electro either, and I think that Greenie is over-exposed. I'm a big fan of Venom, Kraven, Kingpin, and the more dark villains. If Morlun were written better, and hadn't came about while Venom had just died, then I would more than likely enjoy him better.
Guess it really is just a personal taste thing
I actually like Ock and Electro a lot better then I do Venom or Carnage.
Morlun? Meh .... never cared for him, Hope he stays gone.
I will agree with you that Green goblin Is defiantly to over used.
Originally posted by brainchild81
Yeah. Answer the question please. How's Batman gonna pull that off before being horribly mutilated?
lol, that's an entirely different question than Batman catching all four arms. I don't want to argue because it's pretty obvious; either Batman pulls out his spray first or Dr.Ock wraps his mechanical arms around.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
lol, that's an entirely different question than Batman catching all four arms. I don't want to argue because it's pretty obvious; either Batman pulls out his spray first or Dr.Ock wraps his mechanical arms around.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceIt's really not an entirely different question. If Batman was able to somehow get one arm, what's to stop the other's from instantly killing him? It really seems like this strategy is dependent on Ock standing perfectly still and letting him.
lol, that's an entirely different question than Batman catching all four arms. I don't want to argue because it's pretty obvious; either Batman pulls out his spray first or Dr.Ock wraps his mechanical arms around.
Originally posted by brainchild81
It's really not an entirely different question. If Batman was able to somehow get one arm, what's to stop the other's from instantly killing him? It really seems like this strategy is dependent on Ock standing perfectly still and letting him.
The spray sprawls out in all kinds of directions. Supes was completely engrossed in it.
He could have easily gotten out, but they tied themselves around artifacts he cared for. So this strategy provides that Ock is fighting in a museum with artifacts that he appreciates? Bats, through the gods smiling on him big time, begins to apply the spray and before he can lift his finger off the button one of the other arms crashes through the front of his skull. This strategy is very unlikely to work. It's a stretch even for wishful thinking seeing as how by the time Batman get's close enough to an arm to spray it, the arms would have already killed him 30 times over. Batman'd be nothing but a coustume w/blood pouring out of it. Batman is not Spidey or DD. He'd be lucky to dodge one arm
Originally posted by brainchild81
He could have easily gotten out, but they tied themselves around artifacts he cared for. So this strategy provides that Ock is fighting in a museum with artifacts that he appreciates? Bats, through the gods smiling on him big time, begins to apply the spray and before he can lift his finger off the button one of the other arms crashes through the front of his skull. This strategy is very unlikely to work. It's a stretch even for wishful thinking seeing as how by the time Batman get's close enough to an arm to spray it, the arms would have already killed him 30 times over. Batman'd be nothing but a coustume w/blood pouring out of it. Batman is not Spidey or DD. He'd be lucky to dodge one arm
You're nitpicking. Superman is 100+ ton level, Dr.Ock can't just rip it off that easy. That's like comparing Nas to Kevin Federline. Plus, that adhesive even gave Supes trouble: meaning that it would be much harder for Dr.Ock to break out of. Using a weapon intended for Superman on a 30 ton range guy like Ock is going to be much more effective. It would hold him for maybe 5 to 10 seconds. And it's not like Batman is solely relying on superspray; afterwards, he'll take out a liquid nitrogen capsule and freeze Dr.Ock, use cutting laser to pierce the head, or speed to the back and rip out the adamantium.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
You're nitpicking. Superman is 100+ ton level, Dr.Ock can't just rip it off that easy. That's like comparing Nas to Kevin Federline. Plus, that adhesive even gave Supes trouble: meaning that it would be much harder for Dr.Ock to break out of. Using a weapon intended for Superman on a 30 ton range guy like Ock is going to be much more effective. It would hold him for maybe 5 to 10 seconds. And it's not like Batman is solely relying on superspray; afterwards, he'll take out a liquid nitrogen capsule and freeze Dr.Ock, use cutting laser to pierce the head, or speed to the back and rip out the adamantium.
Ock would kill Batman before he reaches his belt to take the spray.
is funny how batman can keep everything in his utlity belt, the spray thingy that he used agiast supes, k-nite ring, lazers, liquid nitrogen capsules, his car keys, bat-credit card, 4x4ft Batshield, medical suppiles, micro computer, tons of batarangs, Skeleton keys, smoke pellets, flashlight with infra red and black light capability, camera, recorder, knife, tool kit, knockout, tear, laughing gasses, tick-tacs..the list goes on..
oh theres more..Bat-Shark Repellent, grapples/grappling gun, flares, acetelyne torch, mirror, contact lens assortment, earplugs/noseplugs, fingerprint equipment, Bat-Cuffs, Gas mask, Money, Rebreather, Remote control for the bat mobile..
respeck the Utility Belt
anyways doc oct should win this fight, but with all that stuff that batman can potentialy have in the belt, he'l find a way to pull off a win.
Originally posted by spideycarnage
is funny how batman can keep everything in his utlity belt, the spray thingy that he used agiast supes, k-nite ring, lazers, liquid nitrogen capsules, his car keys, bat-credit card, 4x4ft Batshield, medical suppiles, micro computer, tons of batarangs, Skeleton keys, smoke pellets, flashlight with infra red and black light capability, camera, recorder, knife, tool kit, knockout, tear, laughing gasses, tick-tacs..the list goes on..
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Ock wins because it would take Bats hours to find in the belt what he needs.
There are a few problems I see with these pictures:
1. I'm not sure batman carries this stuff around in his batsuit. I mean does he use this stuff on a regular basis or is it a more specialized device?
2. We have no real idea how much force it would take to break the tendrils. Batman actually tells Superman he could be out of it in seconds if he wanted to (and thus risk damaging the artifacts in the process). So Doc Ock may or may not have the strength in his arms needed to tear the tendrils. Either way I would imagine he would have the strength to simply rip apart whatever the tendrils attached themselves to (ie pavement, walls of buildings, ect).
3. Obviously, Batman would have to get into very close range with Doc Ock to even think about using the spray. Now not only does Ock have the reach, strength, and mobility advantage with his arms, but he would also have an entire city full of debris to attack Batman with to keep him at a safe distance. And if Batman did manage to get up-close he would have to contend with the tentacles which would be much harder to avoid at close range.
Batman is simply outmatched here, imo. He is facing a highly intelligent opponent who shown himself to be a legitimate threat to Spiderman in combat. I just don't see Batman taking him down with his regular arsenal.
