street fighter vs mortal kombat

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
🤘 you tell em' remy!!!

I bow before you master... tutor me in the ways of good debating.

Err... Yeah... Umm... stupid

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So scorpion is intangible now?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And he's also been BEATEN by people who can do much less, we can do this all day...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
But it can happen, so is it fair to multiply the odds we favor and divide the odds that we don't? I'm really asking you this....

basically I just think we should logically deduce what's most likely to happen.. gill is less likely to stop scorpion before scorpion beats him.. because honestly there's nothing gill can do that scorpion can't take....

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Why would Quan Chi send him there in the first place, or even release him on terms of sevice.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Funny thing is I played through mortal kombat this weekend, even the older ones when they tended to do greater things, I saw him blow kahns portal...and in other media, I saw him blow a building or something... There wouldn't even BE a point of them having that function in them.

the point is to blow up a planet.. is it a counterporductive point? yeah.. can he still do it? well that's where your and my opinions differ.. all I'm saying is that you just implied that gills move being an in-game move instead of a plot oriented move made it more credible.. maybe I misunderstood you but that's what it sounded like... well then the robots have moves in which they blow up the planet...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No different than saying one way is absolute, and counting a characters high points, while negating the low...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Ryu isn't a pushover, nor is akuma, nor is bison... Scorpion was defeated by moloch and drahmin... canon.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Remy...... As much as I may or may not agree with you on the debate at hand... I cannot stand braggarts, especially when they are incorrect.

Didn't I at one stage or two prove to you that you where incorrect on a few matters reguarding streetfighter? (I hate opening old wounds like that, but nobody is infallible, hell even guys like myself and C Master have been proven wrong of a few occasions 😂 )

off course i'm wrong sometimes, but sometimes i do it as a joke, but that doesn't matter.

point is that sf is almost always underrated and is already decided who wins! so i just wanna give good arguments and info about a few things. canon or noncanon

Originally posted by jinzin
no, and I didn't claim he was stop sidetracking.. if he's in yu's deathrealm... he ain't getting downed by seraphic wing..

Originally posted by jinzin
such as? and before you bring up the demons as I know you will remember they were losing that fight and won through the use of the soulnado.. gill doesn't have one of those to help him so....

Man I still remember that.

Originally posted by jinzin
you just implied that it couldn't...

basically I just think we should logically deduce what's most likely to happen.. gill is less likely to stop scorpion before scorpion beats him.. because honestly there's nothing gill can do that scorpion can't take....

Originally posted by jinzin
he didn't... 😕

Yes he did, to kill sub zero.

Originally posted by jinzin
the point is to blow up a planet.. is it a counterporductive point? yeah.. can he still do it? well that's where your and my opinions differ.. all I'm saying is that you just implied that gills move being an in-game move instead of a plot oriented move made it more credible.. maybe I misunderstood you but that's what it sounded like... well then the robots have moves in which they blow up the planet...

This isn't going anywhere...

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm not neglecting anything.. the only people who have beaten scorpion have been through the use of sorcery and the use of a soulnado.... neither of which are in gills arsenal...

Like Johnny Cage.

Originally posted by jinzin
never said they were.. none of them are immortal supernatural villians though.. well akuma's debatable.. but you keep ignoring how scorpion was defeated by those demons using a soulnado.. not exactly the same.. gill doesn't have one..

Originally posted by shin_remy
off course i'm wrong sometimes, but sometimes i do it as a joke, but that doesn't matter.

point is that sf is almost always underrated and is already decided who wins! so i just wanna give good arguments and info about a few things. canon or noncanon

clapping

You tell em remy! I came to this forum, because I watched you do such awesome debating and I just had to be in your prescence.

Originally posted by shin_remy
HAVE YOU READ MY POST?

i have thousends of info, dolls, comics/manga's, game's

you don't know more then me !!!!!!!

and Jinzin

like youre not ignoring good arguments!!!

you ignored 2 good arguments from me and enough from others

nuff said

and if you all think i'm a fool

my answer is this :

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YOu think thats gonnas change anythin. I probably still know more than you.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
"Scorpion fought valiantly, but was overwhelmed, unable to consume the ninja spectre, they threw him into the soulnado, where his hellspawn body was ripped apart by the purity of it."

Man I still remember that.

Made some error changes

and scorpion came back didnt he?

Originally posted by JacopeX
YOur posts are very unimpressive!

YOu think thats gonnas change anythin. I probably still know more than you.

oke

tell something about the japanese manga's, comics and storylines!!

you don't know it

you are just trying to get me mad.. but oke you said ''probally'' but you don't 😛

Originally posted by JacopeX
"scorpion Faught well, but was overpowered, unable to consume the ninja spectre, they threw him into the soulnado where his hell spawn body was ripped apart by purity of it"

Made some error changes

and scorpion came back didnt he?

Originally posted by DarkC
To answer any question between a few select fighters(click on pictures to watch):

KEN VS RAIDEN!

RYU VS SCORPION!

Let us all forget our quarrels for a moment.

this pretty much is how the fight will turn out.

Ken will take out Raiden, while Ryu with the help of Akuma take out Scorpain. Most of the battles will proceed this way.

Ryu SHOULD be strong enough to prevail over scorpion, but if he isn't... akuma sure can do it... no doubt.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You didn't need to directly say it, there is more than one way of saying things

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
"Scorpion fought valiantly, but was overwhelmed, unable to consume the ninja spectre, they threw him into the soulnado, where his hellspawn body was ripped apart by the purity of it."

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I was implying it based off of the way you were deducing it.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yes he did, to kill sub zero.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
This isn't going anywhere...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Like Johnny Cage.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
They're ALL supernatural, since they are above what a human can attain...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Because the elder gods allowed it, which is a plot device.

is that what you were reffering to when you said plot device?

the only way his soul was ripped apart was through the use of a plot device.. every time he came back before that was of his own will though...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Ryu SHOULD be strong enough to prevail over scorpion, but if he isn't... akuma sure can do it... no doubt.

i have serious doubts.

Originally posted by jinzin
i didn't say it in ANY way.. 😕
you don't have to be intangible to avoid an attack..

You implied it, and you're correct about the second part.

Originally posted by jinzin
hmm you were right.. sorry.. after further review, scorpion met up with them once before.. he dominated that fight.. THIS fight however was a sneak attack... and the point still remains the same, the demons were ot able to vanquish scorpion and instead had to resort to throwing him into a soulnado.. a weapon which gill still doesn't have.

They defeated him but were unable to consume him.

Originally posted by jinzin
thus you implied it...

Interpreting would be a better word here.

Originally posted by jinzin
that was well before scorpion's death.. 😕

It was in reference to him being summoned, not being around on his own... if he gets sent back or "dies" then he is the set realm again, that was my point, no different than Moloch or Drahmin being there, and being released..

Originally posted by jinzin
what else is new? 😕

Originally posted by jinzin
oh so we're going by movies.. we can take that route if you want to... do you remember the SF movie though? 😕 yeah MK still wins.

You said ANY media. IF I recall correctly the Alpha movie had them EXTREMELY powerful. So no they do not.

Originally posted by jinzin
isn't that superhuman? supernatural defines something else... well you should be able to understand the context in which I'm using it at least..

Those videoz wuz bull crap anywayz ever since i found out that proxide is an SF fanboy. And he took he fanboism to defeat MK. It sucks anyways but great movies.

They "seemed" to be canon (from someone else not me), and the in-fight scenes heavily favored MK alot, especially in ryu vs scorps, he got way cheap in the end.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You implied it, and you're correct about the second part.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
They defeated him but were unable to consume him. .

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Interpreting would be a better word here.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It was in reference to him being summoned, not being around on his own... if he gets sent back or "dies" then he is the set realm again, that was my point, no different than Moloch or Drahmin being there, and being released...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Not trying to be rude, but it was a circular argument early on....

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You said ANY media. IF I recall correctly the Alpha movie had them EXTREMELY powerful. So no they do not.

Originally posted by jinzin
I don't think i did.. but at this point I'll just accept the fact that somewhere there was a misinterpretation... in any case.. no scorpion isn't intangible, but he can become that way if he allows his corporial body to die.. (he did this in the comics) but for the purposes of our argument about gill i was simply arguing in favor of his teleportation abilities.. that's all...

I see what you were arguing for then...

Originally posted by jinzin
this portion seems ambiguous to me, what do they mean by "consume" were they trying to take his chi? or literally eat him? why didn't it work? in any case the point still remains the same in order to finish him off they had to send him into the soulnado or he would have come back.. like he always does.

Well he's a spectre, moloch and drahmin consume prey naturally, they knew scorpion was dead, and in their cruel manner did that to him... he can come back yes... but this isn't a "killing scorpion" contest, this is a match with a goal to defeat the said character.

Originally posted by jinzin
but can you admit that he DOES come back every time he's vanquished? and that he more often then not does so of his own accord?

Well he's never fully vanquished(or several characters, like kang, cage,and from the looks of it... frost), but to be able to fight on the realm he's in need of a plot device, like kang.

Originally posted by jinzin
okay now I'm not trying to be rude either but weren't you grilling me earlier for using SF at their weakest showings? surley scorpion being beaten by jonney cage fits into that category... in any case movie version vs. movie version.. MK wins easily.. movie MK vs. SF alpha.. well that's certainly a different story.. i have no problems admiting that. ryu's energy at the end was ungodly strong in comparison....

The alpha movie is a no brainer... And 2v seems like alot of SF were quite powerful. You did say you used any media, which is fine, but it poses problems in these threads in the first place. No different than goku vs supes, as the members have VERY different views on who does what.

just let this die