street fighter vs mortal kombat

Started by Magee32 pages

Shin Remy you are a fuking retard, it had to be said, I don't really give a shit tbh. Like most other vs threads you just get a clash of contradicitng views, bias is coming from both sides and this argument like all the others will go no where.

I and others before me posted a list of Raiden and other MK characters feats which have somehow been ignored by the SF fanboys. Go back a few pages and read through them again, and try to have an open mind instead of saying "OMG!11 Akuma pawns all MK cast!!11!!". All i have seen from the SF crew is a few pics (showing nothing of relevance) and Akuma destroyed ayers rock or whatever. SERIOUSLY read people's posts instead of posting bs like a nub.

Originally posted by shin_remy
dude if you know how many animes i watch and how many fighting games i play, i like MK, also as Fatal Fury and KOF, GG etc

You can know more then me of MK but you know NOTHING about the real universe of SF, so please stop comparing Mk to Sf.

Mk is nothing to Sf, Kof does

I typed the whle history of MK with ma bare hands homes, but right now i dont got time for VGS cuz im right now into socccer palyin nation wide

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No its MK fanboys altering the powers and stipulations of the characters definitely, you are just on whatever side jinzin is own... raiden isn't all that on earth... and "elder gods" isn't a specific character.

rayde IS all that on earth. when rayde fights as a god on earth he destroys it (mk I) when he fights as a mortal he shakes the planet.. (mk trilogy)

since this isn't an MK tournement and he's not defying the elder gods he won't be reduced to a mortal like you hope... sorry...

and stop trying to give cyber a hard time... we have a lot of the same viewpoints.. doesn't mean he's always on my side.. people said the same thing about me and cresh obviously that wasn't true either (goku supes)

Originally posted by shin_remy
what can rayden do and do not come up with terms like he is a god cause gill is a god, akuma is a demon, and oro....????and M.Bison is a crazy dictator, doesn;t mean annything, so what can rayden do since he is a god and an elder and stuff

BLOW........
UP...........
PLANETS......

😕

guys guys guys I really don't think we all need to resort to calling eachother fanboys.. for the majority of the people in this thread have been at least attempting to back up their opinions however misdirected they may or may not be....

Make up your mind you're debating or you're not... stop skipping the posts you want to, and then trying to make the same points again later... you gave up remember.

Originally posted by jinzin
rayde IS all that on earth. when rayde fights as a god on earth he destroys it (mk I) when he fights as a mortal he shakes the planet.. (mk trilogy)
Nothing more impressive than I've mentioned again, shaking the earth isn't, and this "god" thing, he was already a god and he's been defeated before... akuma's considered a god.

Originally posted by jinzin
since this isn't an MK tournement and he's not defying the elder gods he won't be reduced to a mortal like you hope... sorry...
He's been around a consistent power level and that power level is enough for him to be defeated, and he DID infact defy the elder gods when he was destroyed.

Again point.

Originally posted by jinzin
and stop trying to give cyber a hard time... we have a lot of the same viewpoints.. doesn't mean he's always on my side.. people said the same thing about me and cresh obviously that wasn't true either (goku supes)
Whatever, Cyber consistently comes in and makes dumb nutswinging comments, and harasses me... no different than you are giving remy a hard time, he can take it, he's what 19?

And yes you Twister, Cresh, merc, all share a lil' possy, even when you disagree you are still on the same side... I've spent more time against you guys than ANYONE else.

YOU are a moron, you know that? You go to ANY end to make a reason to discredit my posts without actually debunking them... you say nothing I don't know and you swing off of peoples nuts...

Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
First of all no one is making EXCUSES( Since you like to capitalize ). Next is that, I have shown Raiden's stats, and the definition of "Mk God"
Which didn't bother me, since I defined the term "god" before... you don't want to argue a semantic battle in which YOU and a fellow member of your team have done most unimpressive in.

You showed his height and weight, etc. So what? What does that say on "how" he's going to win? Where's the logic, this is a hypothetical match. You continuously come in and add things that don't really matter into the debate.

Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
but all you did was dismiss, what the Mk characters have done,

No I DEBUNKED what was confronted, by confronting it head 2 head and debunking it... where did I *dismiss* anything. Oh thats right, the parts where you left out certian plotholes? or tried to shortchanged the story?

I infact myself SAID what the characters have done, its YOUR side saying that the sf "loses to boxers" and whatnot.

Hypocrite.

Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
by what others said and proved.

No, I DEBUNKED those too. Alot of the theories are stale and have shown nothing that would put them on par in a h2h match, the lot of them...

There's been no logic on these posts, dumb points like he'll "come back in 10 seconds when he's defeated" which he's only come back by summoning OR by escaping from the netherrealm.

I don't simply dismiss my friend, I've debunked all the points. Learn the difference when you learn to spell.

Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
Furthermore, you said that the MK characters have done nothing impressive(In your eyes, since you want Sf to win so bad) and over exaggerate, the powers of the Sf team.

You moron, there you go again taking what I say and flying with it... what was the comparison too? Did I not confront the points?

And pray tell me what I exaggerated on the SF side, like you've done for the MK? ( I expect you to ignore this as usual)

Then you go off on a cute tangent and bring up something besides the point, since (oh yes) I'm a fanboy of whatever side I'm owning you on...

You've barely taken a side... and you've nutswinged until dvampire came.

Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
After this you said the Mk fanboys, which is claiming everyone who is against Sf team,
No I didn't say ALL were fanboys, like you said we were all sf fanboys, stop being such a hypocrite... don't take the higher road while calling the kettle black.

Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
but directed it to me after I was replying to a guy saying you all are Mk fanboys first.

So that makes you less right than me how? 😆

Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
When I said Raiden, you said that he isn't to hot on earth. Funny how you want to choose what version of Raiden you want to suit your needs,
Because you guys are exaggerating him and ignoring his limits to suit your needs. I've consistently used the Canon raiden time and time again.

No differnent than your side weakening ryu to "boxer ryu" or going back to MK1 for raiden, but sticking to current scorpion. 🙄

I don't think so, try it on someone else. 😆

Originally posted by Cyber Ninja
hen the thread said Mortal Kombat vs Street fighter. I answered the thread starters question that Sf has the better "fighters" over all(This in another thread and something similar to this one) but then the thread turned into a fight between Sf and Mk universe in general, with no specific characters stated, so I say that Mk wins since they have the Elder Gods and more. I gave the stats of Raiden and it explained the levels of Raiden, while he was a God, like explained earlier but you didn't like that so you chose Earth Raiden with no powers 😂
It would be current game characters but of course you have to get desperate and people bring in clips and everything else they can muster to win... Elder gods don't interfere in earth.

To top it off, I mentioned Canon raiden, what is this raiden with no powers?

I thought not, go sit down, ihatecmaster.... 😆

Nice try though...

MK gets whopped SF characters are much more powerfull and can take a lot more punishment

I agree with your principle on this matchup. It should be made more clearly.

Originally posted by Magee
Shin Remy you are a fuking retard, it had to be said, I don't really give a shit tbh. Like most other vs threads you just get a clash of contradicitng views, bias is coming from both sides and this argument like all the others will go no where.
I agree with the top statement and as of such am not a fan of these inspecific matchups... there are no specific characters, no limits or anything.

Everyone is using a different type of media... I just want to bring across that SF characters are stronger than people make them, and just because they have "street fighter" in there title, they aren't weak.

Again I think its close, but some people on here are just an exercise in frustration.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Make up your mind you're debating or you're not... stop skipping the posts you want to, and then trying to make the same points again later... you gave up remember [B]

actually I gave up... ON YOU... there's a difference...

I'm not making points.. I'm stating facts... which you continue to ignore...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B]Nothing more impressive than I've mentioned again, shaking the earth isn't, and this "god" thing, he was already a god and he's been defeated before... akuma's considered a god. [B]

ah yes you keep saying akuma does it in a stomp yet you failed to tell me when and where... so when and where?

also... when was he defeated before as a god? (remember in outworld and when mortal are not useable to answer the question.. so please.. indulge me)

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B] He's been around a consistent power level and that power level is enough for him to be defeated, and he DID infact defy the elder gods when he was destroyed.. [B]

as a god and not in outworld? when? 😕

and yeah I know he defied the elder gods (he wasn't destroyed btw he just expelled his energies at the moment) so what?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B]And yes you Twister, Cresh, merc, all share a lil' possy, even when you disagree you are still on the same side... I've spent more time against you guys than ANYONE else.

just because we don't show the distasteful disrespect that you begin resorting to when we disagree doesn't mean we're on the same side.

Originally posted by Knuckles X 20
MK gets whopped SF characters are much more powerfull and can take a lot more punishment

more powerful?

when have any of the sf characters displayed planet destroying power? 🤨

You gave up on me but you're still here "debating" contradictory as ever... eh. 😉

You keep using plot devices, and things that take time, that wouldn't follow into something that would be in this "random matchup".

Originally posted by jinzin
actually I gave up... ON YOU... there's a difference...

I'm not making points.. I'm stating facts... which you continue to ignore...

ah yes you keep saying akuma does it in a stomp yet you failed to tell me when and where... so when and where?

also... when was he defeated before as a god? (remember in outworld and when mortal are not useable to answer the question.. so please.. indulge me)

as a god and not in outworld? when? 😕

and yeah I know he defied the elder gods (he wasn't destroyed btw he just expelled his energies at the moment) so what?

just because we don't show the distasteful disrespect that you begin resorting to when we disagree doesn't mean we're on the same side.

No actually I was debating fine, until one of your idiot posse come along, usually merc or twister, and make some snide comment. (people all over the forum agree) Just because I'm better at making you look stupid doesn't make me more wrong than you, because up until this thread I insulted nooone for MONTHS. Funnier yet is its usually YOU yourself who starts with the snide comments about "not knowing what the hell the person is talking about", and the rolleyes and whatever. Insults in their passive form are still insults, ask Alpha Centauri. A person I debate with occasionaly. 😉

And ANYTHING is better than backpatting.

And as of such this thread is stupid, the mediums are being varied too much and the concepts aren't even agreed upon, so I say sf at their highest takes mk.

true, I dont think that any street fighter character is that powerfull. Judging by those standards, Mk would probably win. BUT MK is so retarded now, thier designs suck a$$. They pretty much ran out of good design (obviously) half the cast of deadly alliance was LAME as hell. so midway pretty much decided to say hey lets make our guys like gods, to make up for how silly they look.yeah they are pretty powerfull, but with a few exceptions they are all pretty lame and retarded looking. Dont get me wrong the first two MK's were great, loved them. But that fighting game has really went down the tubes.

Well if you want to get into game mechanics then yes, the gameplay of MK leaves much to be desired...

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
true, I dont think that any street fighter character is that powerfull. Judging by those standards, Mk would probably win. BUT MK is so retarded now, thier designs suck a$$. They pretty much ran out of good design (obviously) half the cast of deadly alliance was LAME as hell. so midway pretty much decided to say hey lets make our guys like gods, to make up for how silly they look.yeah they are pretty powerfull, but with a few exceptions they are all pretty lame and retarded looking. Dont get me wrong the first two MK's were great, loved them. But that fighting game has really went down the tubes.
Like I said before, in the normal cast I could see the highest showing of SF winning, in a random fight like the one posted above... but to bring in time and resources like they are debating with stipulations would grant mk a win...

Originally posted by jinzin
more powerful?

when have any of the sf characters displayed planet destroying power? 🤨

When has any MK character? Kang has never displayed that kind of power, he was offed by a simple fireball and got his neck broken. 😕

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You gave up on me but you're still here "debating" contradictory as ever... eh. 😉

not really... did I ever say "i quite"
simple matter is our drawn out conversation wasn't going anywhere because you refused to open your eyes you kept saying my argument was something it wasn't... there was no further reason to persist if you wouldn't follow...

however if you're going to make claims I'm simply asking where they came from or filling in blanks when you choose to ignore "how something happened" which you were getting on my case about... hmmmm. I'm not really trying to debate with you but you're so damned good at baiting me what can i say?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You keep using plot devices, and things that take time, that wouldn't follow into something that would be in this "random matchup".

for example? 😕

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No actually I was debating fine, until one of your idiot posse come along, usually merc or twister, and make some snide comment. (people all over the forum agree) Just because I'm better at making you look stupid doesn't make me more wrong than you, because up until this thread I insulted nooone for MONTHS. Funnier yet is its usually YOU yourself who starts with the snide comments about "not knowing what the hell the person is talking about", and the rolleyes and whatever. Insults in their passive form are still insults, ask Alpha Centauri. A person I debate with occasionaly. 😉

why would I ask alpha anything? he's a good debator but he, like most of your b.s. has nothing to do with this thread or argument. You THINK you're good at making people look stupid... yet you only succeed in making yourself look as such. For me and my "snide" remarks.. well when you say something about a series yet all the evidence of said series contradicts the previously made statement how am I supposed to believe that one DOES know what the hell their talking about? that's not logical.. and we all know what a big fan of logic you are.. 😉

as far as insults go, I'm insulted when you bring up "wolverine beats XXX" as if they are arguments I currently support...

{the carnage one is the only one I've ever really supported and that was admittedly going by how it would go down in a comic book story... I've reconnted that assessment many many times (and no.. in spite of your ego my reconsideration had nothing to do with you... infact my reconsideration on the matter was a change of heart before you showed up...)}

yet you continue to use that in place of an argument...

this kind of post is EXACTLY why I started ignoring you to begin with... if you're going to take up someone's time at least be worth it...

so then... when and where did akuma shake the world with a stomp?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And as of such this thread is stupid, the mediums are being varied too much and the concepts aren't even agreed upon, so I say sf at their highest takes mk.
until sf shows planet destroying power they are not even in the same league....

Originally posted by dvampire
When has any MK character? Kang has never displayed that kind of power, he was offed by a simple fireball and got his neck broken. 😕

perhaps you should go back through the thread and look at the examples....

😕

Originally posted by jinzin
perhaps you should go back through the thread and look at the examples....

😕

Guess they have never done it then. 🙂

i've given you the games, issues or eps in which they've done these things.... 🤨

but then again you see what you want to see too... pffft.... "dbz characters can't blow up planets either"... 🙄

It looks like this shit train took the express route down the drain...

I just wanted to say that, although I have absolutely NO intention of reading over the absolute crap this thread has managed to produce, I am siding with streetfighter in a purely videogaming sense.

Storyline wise, this match is considerably closer, however, Jinzin, there has been NO examples of planet destroying power anywhere in MK OR SF, The closest that you can conceivably come up with is planetary ASSIMILATION and nothing else. Even Onaga was only going to assimilate it, and he is theoretically the strongest MK character ever made.

I read somewhere that Ryu and Ken would be killed by Ice bolts and a grappling spear. this is pure crap, let me explain; why grant a concession to the MK characters without granting the same concession to the SFers, I can honestly say that Ryu's Shankunetsu hadouken could kill Sub-Zero just as easily, Or Ken can simply Dodge a grappling hook and them move into a super to literally kick the shitter out of Scorpion.

Despite what you think about Scorps imortality, he can be defeated like any other physical entity, From the games, The Oni Demons defeated him, Quan Chi trapped him (And himself inadvertently) and Sub-Zero killed him, and as a further example, Cage killed him in the first movie.