street fighter vs mortal kombat

Started by jinzin32 pages
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
, Jinzin, there has been NO examples of planet destroying power anywhere in MK OR SF, The closest that you can conceivably come up with is planetary ASSIMILATION and nothing else. Even Onaga was only going to assimilate it, and he is theoretically the strongest MK character ever made.

nonsense....

mk one rayden's ending...
mk trilogy rayden's ending
cybernetic ninja fatalities.
ermac's ending in ultimate

there are plenty of examples...

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Despite what you think about Scorps imortality, he can be defeated like any other physical entity, From the games, The Oni Demons defeated him, Quan Chi trapped him (And himself inadvertently) and Sub-Zero killed him, and as a further example, Cage killed him in the first movie.

demon's used a soulnado... sf'ers don't have soulnados... 🤨

quan chi didn't trap scorpion.. scorpion trapped quan chi.... cage didn't kill him.. just destroyed his coprorial form which is why he's back in the the second movie...

if his physical body was so easily defeated than how come subzero was incinerated by him? (you don't have to answer because) because his corporial form isn't so easily overcome... doesn't matter if you DO destroy it... it has nothing to do with what I think but rather what's been proven.

Originally posted by jinzin
nonsense....

mk one rayden's ending...
mk trilogy rayden's ending
cybernetic ninja fatalities.
ermac's ending in ultimate

there are plenty of examples...

All of which are outside of the established storyline.... you need actual proof that the event occured before it's accepted as fact. and Smokes fatality is not established as fact either, otherwise everything after MK3 would not have transpired...

Originally posted by jinzin
demon's used a soulnado... sf'ers don't have soulnados... 🤨

quan chi didn't trap scorpion.. scorpion trapped quan chi.... cage didn't kill him.. just destroyed his coprorial form which is why he's back in the the second movie...

if his physical body was so easily defeated than how come subzero was incinerated by him? (you don't have to answer because) because his corporial form isn't so easily overcome... doesn't matter if you DO destroy it... it has nothing to do with what I think but rather what's been proven.

Firstly, it was Quan Chi's spell that sent them both into the Nether Realm, not Scorps power... (Scorps MK4 Ending is official)

If he is defeated, he is defeated, no matter how many times he ressurects, if he is defeated in a match then the match is over, his ressurection is NOT instant.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
All of which are outside of the established storyline.... you need actual proof that the event occured before it's accepted as fact. and Smokes fatality is not established as fact either, otherwise everything after MK3 would not have transpired...

it's an ability... if you want to argue against that then there's no sense in bringing up raging demon... or hadoken for that matter...

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Firstly, it was Quan Chi's spell that sent them both into the Nether Realm, not Scorps power... (Scorps MK4 Ending is official)

If he is defeated, he is defeated, no matter how many times he ressurects, if he is defeated in a match then the match is over, his ressurection is NOT instant.


hmm you're right about the quan chi thing but teleportation to and from realms is still a power at his disposal...

his resurrection takes however long he wants it to take...

the again you're attempting to argue against described abilities... it's pointless... maybe somebody can beat him.. that's not going to stop him from coming right back and killling them.. not much of a victory if you're dead.

Bravo!!! You have to give it to this man... for his simple ability to consistently say that *I* am sidetracking a debate, when he spends PARAGRAPHS doing it... this is exactly why I consider posts like these a waste of time, and I don't even bother with the vs boards anymore.

I mean seriously, are you a woman? You accuse me of something, but yet you waste your time the EXACT same way? Do you realize that you are setting a double standard? Your hypocrisy is astounding, really.

Now don't waste anymore of my time with this constant bitterness that you, twister, creshosk, and others come around with me on the forum with. You got owned, get over it...

But since I like to start the day off with a lil' bit of asswhooping...

Originally posted by jinzin
not really... did I ever say "i quite"

I don't know when you said, "I quite" 😆 , but I know you made SEVERAL implications of being done with my posts, but as we all know it was just a copout to keep you from getting to the point right? 😉

But of course, like this post, the rest of yours are simply too ambiguous and left open to interpretation so when someone interprets it the way that you don't want it to look, you swap the interpretation to save face. This statement is a good example of what I'm talking about.

Originally posted by jinzin
simple matter is our drawn out conversation wasn't going anywhere

It really wasn't, because I couldn't get you to look above anything without saying the same statements... infact you weren't even doing the debating, *I* was doing it for the most part, because I had to TRANSLATE half of what you said to make it material worth debating, you know, since 90% of your posts are just nubious claims.

"He's batman so he wins!"

Tell me, how exactly do you debate something as nubious as that?

Oh wait, you can't.

Originally posted by jinzin
because you refused to open your eyes you kept saying my argument was something it wasn't... there was no further reason to persist if you wouldn't follow...

Was Jinzin's argument a bunch of claims when the debate started? Yes...

Was Jinzin intentionally leaving his posts open for interpretation? Yes...

Did Jinzin sidetrack the debate and then (which is his fashion),accuse me of it simply because I'm black? Yes...

Did Jinzin get owned so bad that he had to leave to take a 2 day break (don't deny it either...)? Absolutely...

And don't you forget it... 😉

Originally posted by jinzin
however if you're going to make claims I'm simply asking where they came from

Claims like? All of this side has given sufficient evidence so don't even START the road of discrediting my claims by doing that because you have nothing to bring to the argument, after all of your points have been shot down... Furthermore if you are going to argue, and try to force a medium on me, but switch and apply yours when it gets your balls sweaty, it makes you a hypocrite doesn't it?

But oh wait, its okay for you, because its ALL about Jinzin. 🙄

I know you too well.

Originally posted by jinzin
or filling in blanks when you choose to ignore "how something happened" which you were getting on my case about... hmmmm.

What blanks are you filling in? Dude I've always known you to be a bit slow, but can you please go point out what blanks you've been filling in? Its not my fault you don't know anything about Street Fighter, and you go by whatever you've seen at their weakest... now you want ME to supply you with what YOU aren't even bringing to the table....

And Jinzin you DO have a reputation, not only here, but all over the vs forums for ignoring plot devices consistently and completely to suit your argument, and thats not even the beginning of it, (quan chi and scorpion).

You ignore ANYTHING that discredits your argument, you used one sided feats, and biased showings, to top it off you don't see the lack of logic that would apply in these. But why have logic? According to YOU, you don't even need it to be in a debate.

You do it all the time, ignoring training sessions, or showing ONE pic, but oddly hiding the rest... I know your little game, and it isn't sexy... but its fun to watch you get upset about it.

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm not really trying to debate with you but you're so damned good at baiting me what can i say?

The most ACCURATE and HONEST statement said yet on this thread...

Originally posted by jinzin
for example? 😕

Things that wouldn't happen in an instant random match, and would take time, resources or a plot device. Events that aren't usable in an instant h2h match. You know what they are. 😉

Originally posted by jinzin
why would I ask alpha anything?

Oh my god, it was a satire, a bit of sardonic irony, I was being sarcastic, joking. But oh wait you can't DETECT sarcasm...

Originally posted by jinzin
he's a good debator but he, like most of your b.s. has nothing to do with this thread or argument.

You and him are alike in many ways, like here for instance. You have the arrogance to determine what IS or ISN'T part of the thread or argument, when YOU want it to be... I swear you two are women sometimes. Cresh does it too...

Most of your debating involves dragging shit on for so many pages, that I have to backtrack 20 pages to have a debate, but in the end its just accusations, fabrications, and bad spelling.

If you are going to say MY arguments have little to do with the thread, you could take the HIGHER thread and not bs it with your petty grudge about you getting owned... it would be nice you know.

All of your bitterness can be calmly sorted out by pms...

Originally posted by jinzin
You THINK you're good at making people look stupid... yet you only succeed in making yourself look as such.

I know according to the VAST majority of people who make comments on threads, in the "best debator threads", and some of my wierder fans (i.e Jamberry think), obviously your grudge with me, wouldn't affect your view on your statement. 🙄

Baby I know I am, which is seconded by my ability to wind people up... known all across the forums... hell I don't need to say anything else, just view my profile. YOU'RE in there.

Originally posted by jinzin
For me and my "snide" remarks..

Wait before I go forward, let me guess. What you are about the say gives you a good reason to make you do these things, since its ALWAYS gotta be about David.
😆

Originally posted by jinzin
well when you say something about a series yet all the evidence of said series contradicts the previously made statement

First point out all of these, then let me say...

I know for shame, since you know, you are the one plucking whatever pieces of media YOU want to use and restricting me to what YOU want me to use...
Because its ALL about you right?

Originally posted by jinzin
how am I supposed to believe that one DOES know what the hell their talking about?

For the record, its "they are, or they're"? How can you expect me to know what YOU'RE talking about when it looks like YOU'RE typing with your ass? 😆

When you go and make BIASED statements about a certain side, and NEGATIVE bias (yes, you can be baised AGAINST something, you learn something new everyday), how am I going to trust you?

You want ryu to lose to boxers, but you want to use mixed media of other characters, AND to top it off, you aren't even FAMILIAR with half of the SF storyline... sheesh. I hate having to do double work.

Originally posted by jinzin
that's not logical.. and we all know what a big fan of logic you are..

And we know how big of a fan of ILL-logic you are...

Here's some samples:

1. "Wolverine doesn't NEED leverage to attack" (wolverine vs ock, since you made the implication he could attack when his arms were grabbed and suspended in midair.)

2. "Wolverine can move faster than the speed of sound" (also wolverine vs ock, where you and others neglected to forget for a humanoid sized creature to move at the rate to be invisible they would have to move faster than the speed of sound, many times over.

3. "Wolverine is immune to inertia" (What can wolverine survive? Where you neglected to remember that with every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, and the force WOULD go somewhere. But of course you stayed on me, despite the fact that nat and never were saying similar things.)

Or how you think DD can beat wolverine but not spiderman who is 35 times stronger... talk about logic.

I know you too well bud...

I expect a "blah blah blah your assessment, blah blah blah, pfft, whatever" on this.

Originally posted by jinzin
as far as insults go, I'm insulted when you bring up "wolverine beats XXX" as if they are arguments I currently support...

But its ok for you to throw the first stone by implying I supported something? Are you sure you aren't a woman?

Originally posted by jinzin
{the carnage one is the only one I've ever really supported and that was admittedly going by how it would go down in a comic book story...

Please.

Namor, Thor, Wrecker, you said he gets 4 out of Wonder Woman, you said he gets 3 or 4 out of Hulk, Wolverine vs Metallo, Carnage... I guess its that Karate Class factor eh?

ANOTHER problem you neglect that this is a FORUM, not a damned comic book or game, which makes debating with you even MORE of an exercise in frustration because you ignore ALL the rules and still don't know them. *sigh*

Originally posted by jinzin
I've reconnted that assessment many many times (and no.. in spite of your ego my reconsideration had nothing to do with you... infact my reconsideration on the matter was a change of heart before you showed up...)}

You did it because of ME, and saving face... I know what you think before you go to sleep at night... you can get therapy for that. 😉

But I'll give you that you are a fanboy that can be convinced, and TRIES, vs being just diehard incurable... there is hope for you....

To be honest neanderthals like that are the reason I don't even do much but take a piss at the various threads at the comic versus forum, they seem to confuse "continue posting" with "debating" and much worse "winning a debate".

Originally posted by jinzin
yet you continue to use that in place of an argument...

And I'm still quoting you sidetracking the debate, becuase its ALWAYS got to be about you.

I didn't do that until you made your claim, so stop trying to take the high road when you cast the first stone, and just take the ownage like a man.

Originally posted by jinzin
this kind of post is EXACTLY why I started ignoring you to begin with... if you're going to take up someone's time at least be worth it...

I know, I've been here cutting and pasting you still sidetracking this debate, not amused, nor impressed. Do me a favor and take a glance at these words... and understand what they mean...

Hypocrisy:

1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
2. An act or instance of such falseness.

Contradict:

1. To assert or express the opposite of (a statement).
2. To deny the statement of. See Synonyms at deny.
3. To be contrary to; be inconsistent with.

v. intr.

To utter a contradictory statement.

Originally posted by jinzin
so then... when and where did akuma shake the world with a stomp?

He does it quite often, hell look at alpha three, but you don't know much about street fighter anyways so its not worth my time.

Originally posted by jinzin
until sf shows planet destroying power they are not even in the same league....
We've already been over this time and time again and I gave my verdict based on the culmination of certain mediums... no need to rehash.

Since I know this is going to be answered in "Jinzin mode" (more sidetracking and sarcasm with little substance) I might as well say that whenever you stop being so hurt, bitter, and upset, you can always pm me to sort this out...

But ttyl, because I have to go... and I have an appointment with Twister later, to take him through the flaws of his OWN thinking. Being Tha C-Master is hard work believe it or not....

Hate the game, don't hate the playa.

Originally posted by jinzin
it's an ability... if you want to argue against that then there's no sense in bringing up raging demon... or hadoken for that matter...

ESTABLISHED ABILITIES... Something that has actually been used in the official storyline... if you want to bring up unofficial capabilities that have never been used, then Akuma's ateroid smashing capability, among others are also avalable, even Bison's world smashing satelite will be legal... Changes the scope from a simple contest of physical capability to one that determins who can blow up more matter first., it's a stupid direction.

Originally posted by jinzin
hmm you're right about the quan chi thing but teleportation to and from realms is still a power at his disposal...

his resurrection takes however long he wants it to take...

the again you're attempting to argue against described abilities... it's pointless... maybe somebody can beat him.. that's not going to stop him from coming right back and killling them.. not much of a victory if you're dead.

Care to actually back that up with proof? there has never been an incident where he has escaped the Nether Realm without assistance, meaning he has never escaped on his own (Exept for the initial formation). Why would Quan Chi attempt to send Scorpion to a realm that he KNOWS he can leave at will any time he chooses?

Added to that, why didn't he just jump right back and kill Cage?, and why did it take so fricken long for him to catch Sub Zero? This argument makes absolutely no sense.... if he has the capabilities you describe, Cage would have been killed the instant he defeated scorps the first time. Gamewise, Sub-Zero would have been hunted down the moment he killed the living Scorpion. or at least after their first meeting.

Originally posted by jinzin
it's an ability... if you want to argue against that then there's no sense in bringing up raging demon... or hadoken for that matter...

hmm you're right about the quan chi thing but teleportation to and from realms is still a power at his disposal...

his resurrection takes however long he wants it to take...

the again you're attempting to argue against described abilities... it's pointless... maybe somebody can beat him.. that's not going to stop him from coming right back and killling them.. not much of a victory if you're dead.

This is what I mean though, they are saying "planet busting power" and shin akuma isn't canon, but its okay to scrape the barrel for whatever they need...

A fatality is a fatality its an in game joke, its not canon... thats absolutely retarded, the sf's moves have been documented and are a part of them, HELL look at wikipedia... We know their style and their technequies for DECADES now...

Scorpion's spear and Sub Zero's ICE are examples of moves that are known of that character... sheesh...

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
ESTABLISHED ABILITIES... Something that has actually been used in the official storyline... if you want to bring up unofficial capabilities that have never been used, then Akuma's ateroid smashing capability, among others are also avalable, even Bison's world smashing satelite will be legal... Changes the scope from a simple contest of physical capability to one that determins who can blow up more matter first., it's a stupid direction.

shin akuma isn't even a canon character.. changes things quite a damned bit to have one canon character doing something and a non canon character doing another...

the detonation was a failsafe to ensure the cybers got the job done one way or the other.. a last resort perhaps but it was still there...

If it does come down to a who can blow the other up first argument who would win?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Care to actually back that up with proof? there has never been an incident where he has escaped the Nether Realm without assistance, meaning he has never escaped on his own (Exept for the initial formation). Why would Quan Chi attempt to send Scorpion to a realm that he KNOWS he can leave at will any time he chooses?

because he didn't know that? hell after trilogy ended scorpions soul went to be at peace but quan chi needed him.. having no real established meetings with the spectre before.. there was little chance that he new what he was resurrecting...which is something to remember... quan chi didn't free him.. he granted him life again.

specific examples of scorpion doing the teleportation are during annihilation when scorpion comes up from the lava pits.. that was addmitedly the netherrealm due to the merger of planets or some B.S. that the writers came up with but it was definitely neatherrealm...
the comics.. whenever his corporial form was broken and he had to come back. or MK one again.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Added to that, why didn't he just jump right back and kill Cage?, and why did it take so fricken long for him to catch Sub Zero? This argument makes absolutely no sense.... if he has the capabilities you describe, Cage would have been killed the instant he defeated scorps the first time. Gamewise, Sub-Zero would have been hunted down the moment he killed the living Scorpion. or at least after their first meeting.

he was being mind controlled.. after reforming his energies the mind control was supposedly over thus his incentive to kill cage over as well and his mission restarted.. but since scorpion is neutral and subzero was soon dead well.....

scorpion didn't make his deal with the demigod yu until a year after the event took place. after that subzero was under the protection of rayden for a short time which limited scorpion to choosing a more specific time to end it.. (i.e. when the island was collapsing)

as for "C" master..

wow.. did I make somebody angry? 😂

lol.. all you did was sidetrack like crazy, claim you were owning me and say that I said things I've never said all over again (some of those are true but not without circumstance, btw I never made an official judgement vs. wrecker... and a 3/10 vs. hulk is being kind considering wolvie has the winning record)

as far as my misspelling... well you are after all an "english lectuar" are you not? 😂

now... enough with the sidetracking bullshit and the whinning.. or cry for attention or whatever that was...(btw i've never accused you of anything because you were black, you must have a complex or something).

when has akuma specifically shaken the globe with a stomp?

I think YOU'RE angry and want attention, I understand these early mornings can get lonely... 😆

I hope you realize this is board stuff and not personal is all... ✅

Originally posted by jinzin
as for "C" master..

wow.. did I make somebody angry? 😂

lol.. all you did was sidetrack like crazy, claim you were owning me and say that I said things I've never said all over again (some of those are true but not without circumstance, btw I never made an official judgement vs. wrecker... and a 3/10 vs. hulk is being kind considering wolvie has the winning record)

as far as my misspelling... well you are after all an "english lectuar" are you not? 😂

now... enough with the sidetracking bullshit and the whinning.. or cry for attention or whatever that was...(btw i've never accused you of anything because you were black, you must have a complex or something).

when has akuma specifically shaken the globe with a stomp?

Stop trying to sidetrack the debate forth, why are you so addicted to me? 😕

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I think YOU'RE angry and want attention, I understand these early mornings can get lonely... 😆

I hope you realize this is board stuff and not personal is all... ✅

Stop trying to sidetrack the debate forth, why are you so addicted to me? 😕


🙄

as I said... yawn

Originally posted by jinzin
shin akuma isn't even a canon character.. changes things quite a damned bit to have one canon character doing something and a non canon character doing another...

the detonation was a failsafe to ensure the cybers got the job done one way or the other.. a last resort perhaps but it was still there...

If it does come down to a who can blow the other up first argument who would win?

Firstly, Shin Akuma is Akuma... there is no distinction bitween them as separate characters, Shin Akuma is just Akuma who's not holding back.

Secondly All the feats that have been mentioned, (Island Smashing, Remaining underwater for hours at a time, Meteor smashing, Aiers rock splitting) where all done by REGULAR Akuma... Owned

As for the Smoke Bomb theory, since the failsafe never actually was proven, that point is null.

Originally posted by jinzin
because he didn't know that? hell after trilogy ended scorpions soul went to be at peace but quan chi needed him.. having no real established meetings with the spectre before.. there was little chance that he new what he was resurrecting...which is something to remember... quan chi didn't free him.. he granted him life again.

specific examples of scorpion doing the teleportation are during annihilation when scorpion comes up from the lava pits.. that was addmitedly the netherrealm due to the merger of planets or some B.S. that the writers came up with but it was definitely neatherrealm...
the comics.. whenever his corporial form was broken and he had to come back. or MK one again.

He never fully escaped the Nether realm without assistance, this proves that unless someone brings him back, he stays there.

Thats incorrect, Quan Chi knew precisely what to expect, since it was he who arranged for Sub Zero to kill him in the first place, AND he has freed one other person from the Nether Realm before... Shinnok... This is a circular argument...

Originally posted by jinzin
he was being mind controlled.. after reforming his energies the mind control was supposedly over thus his incentive to kill cage over as well and his mission restarted.. but since scorpion is neutral and subzero was soon dead well.....

scorpion didn't make his deal with the demigod yu until a year after the event took place. after that subzero was under the protection of rayden for a short time which limited scorpion to choosing a more specific time to end it.. (i.e. when the island was collapsing)

The guy just defeated him... your telling me Scorp didn't want another chance? righto...

Thats a circular argument... there was no actual intervention from Rayden for the first Sub Zero after he returned the Amulet.

Originally posted by jinzin
🙄

as I said... yawn

Precisely... 😆

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Firstly, Shin Akuma is Akuma... there is no distinction bitween them as separate characters, Shin Akuma is just Akuma who's not holding back.

shin akuma is a non canon character.. there's pretty damned decent distinction.... his feats however pose no real threat to the MK side of this debate.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Secondly All the feats that have been mentioned, (Island Smashing, Remaining underwater for hours at a time, Meteor smashing, Aiers rock splitting) where all done by REGULAR Akuma... Owned.

meteor smashing appeared to be done by shin akuma... none of the other feats were argued from using... 😕

what exactly did you own there? 🤨

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
As for the Smoke Bomb theory, since the failsafe never actually was proven, that point is null.

hmm seemed to work whenever I used the fatality...
either way it has to come down to a

"if it works this happens"
"if it doesn't this happens"

and aside from that the other powerhouses are still powerhouses.. the cybers were only one option....

(so... which side are you leaning towards (not gameplay) as I don't think you've made an official decision as of yet.)

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
He never fully escaped the Nether realm without assistance, this proves that unless someone brings him back, he stays there.

i just gave you several examples of him doing exactly that.. 🤨... another, would be in defenders of the realm... he got out by himself again.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Thats incorrect, Quan Chi knew precisely what to expect, since it was he who arranged for Sub Zero to kill him in the first place, AND he has freed one other person from the Nether Realm before... Shinnok... This is a circular argument...

no.. he really didn't... it wasn't quan chi that gave scorpion his supernatural abilities.. it was the demigod yu... 😕

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
The guy just defeated him... your telling me Scorp didn't want another chance? righto...

actually I am... scorpion is a neutral party... he doesn't care what happens one way or the other has long as his primary agenda is met... it was met..
also the writers of the movies admittedly didn't know what to make of scorpion.. they addmitedly can't explain his defection to evil in the second movie... oh well...

but if we're debating movie vs. movie here.... ✅

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Thats a circular argument... there was no actual intervention from Rayden for the first Sub Zero after he returned the Amulet.

ummmm. 😕

For the TENTH time, Akuma IS shin akuma not holding back and embracing himself, and since the upper limits of akuma haven't been shown truely and I mean TRUELY (my guess is that he'll only use it on ryu one day), then that makes him THAT much more dangerous.

I'm off for a nap.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
For the TENTH time, Akuma IS shin akuma not holding back and embracing himself, and since the upper limits of akuma haven't been shown truely and I mean TRUELY (my guess is that he'll only use it on ryu one day), then that makes him THAT much more dangerous.

I'm off for a nap.

supposedly... we'll never know until we see it in story...

however.. like I said his feats are relatively not a threat on the planetary scale at least...

even the meteor one... the ocean one is fairly impressive.. but neither are even from a strictly SF verse... 😕

This will be my last post for tonight...

Originally posted by jinzin
shin akuma is a non canon character.. there's pretty damned decent distinction.... his feats however pose no real threat to the MK side of this debate.

meteor smashing appeared to be done by shin akuma... none of the other feats were argued from using... 😕

what exactly did you own there? 🤨

Read my post again Jinzin, you missed the part where I said they they are one and the same character...

Originally posted by jinzin
hmm seemed to work whenever I used the fatality...
either way if comes down to a

"if it works this happens"
"if it doesn't this happens"

Again, you missed a point. I said ESTABLISHED POWERS AND ABILITIES, learn it well, C master said ity best, it was an ingame joke

Besides, the one time it could concevably be considered officially happening is when Cyrax used his self destruct in Annihilation, it was big enough to blow up a fortified building... impressive, but a FAR cry from planet busting...

Originally posted by jinzin
i just gave you several examples... another would be in defenders of the realm... he got out by himself again.

Umm, no you didn't, in any of those instances, he was brought out with the assistance of another entity.

Originally posted by jinzin
no.. he really didn't... it wasn't qun chi that gave scorpion his supernatural abilities.. it was the demigod yu... 😕

I didn't say GAVE HIM HIS POWER.... you've put words in my mouth... Play MK Mythologies, Sub Zero and play it thoroughly, maybe you'll get the storyline better that way... Quan Chi Set them up... He anticipated that Yu would turn Scorp into a spectre of vengence in order to keep Sub Zero busy and Rayden occupied while he freed Shinnok.

Originally posted by jinzin
actually I am... scorpion is a neutral party... he doesn't care what happens one way or the other has long as his primary agenda is met... it was met..

ummmm. 😕

You missed again... I said WHILE SUBZERO WAS RETURNING THE AMULET, at no other time was Rayden protecting Sub Zero Sr

On a side note, if Island crashing is unimpressive to MKers, but head lobbing uppercuts kills them, then there's something seriously wrong with your logic...

damn this is really the biggest discussion i have ever seen between 2 a 3 persons pffff

ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK LOL 😆

And Im the only one that thinks its a tie. Come on now, MK got gods and are really strict with there fighting techinques and fatalities. Ey yo, Raiden, Fujin, Shinnok, are all gods and yea M. bison and Gill are pretty powerful with teleporting and have very good fightin skills and all dat shit. But look lets talk abut SF, They have powerballs like DBZ and they strike hard hits and they never miss. They also have good parrying skillz. If we were to put Akuma Vs scorpion, they wont fight each other cuz there both evil and'll team up so why the **** should SF and MK fight, how about team up. Hey I got it

MK and SF

Vs

i dont know SNK VS MARVEL

BUt hold up dont change the subject cuz of wut i wuz thinkin but still I think that MK and SF would tie.

Yo imma start makin up fights fo the two teams so help me out wit this iight. Sorry about this of me postin this alot of times but this is helpful

Johnny Cage
Raiden
Kano
Liu Kang
Sonya
Sub Zero
Scorpion
ErRoR mAcro
Reptile
Goro
Kung Lao
Shang Tsung
Kitana
Jax
Mileena
Baraka
Rain
Stryker
NightWolf
Jade
Noob Saibot
Sektor
Cyrax
Kabal
Sindel
Smoke (both Human and Cyber)
Ermac
Chamillion
Sheeva
Shao Kahn
Motaro
Kai
Shinnok
Reiko
Jarek
Tanya
Fujin
Quan Chi
Sareena
Bo Rai Cho
Lei Mei
Kenshi
Movado
Nitara
Hsu Hao
Drahmin
Moloch
Frost
Havik
Hotaru
Ashra
Dairou
Darious
Kira
Kobra
BLAZE
MOKAP

VS

STREET FIGHTER GOT:

Retsu
Geki
Joe
Mike
Lee
Gen
Birdie
Eagle
Adon
Ryu
Ken
Chun Li
Blanka
Zangief
Dhalsim
Guile
E Honda
Balrog
Vega
Sagat
M. Bison
Fei Long
T Hawk
Dee Jay
Cammy
Akuma
Sakura
Charlie
Dan
Guy
Rainbow Mika
Cody
Karin
Juli
Juni
Sodom
Adon
Rolento
Rose
Necro
elena
Q
Elena
Urien
Motoko
Gill
Yang
Yun
Ibuki
Dudley
Alex
Hugo
Remy
Sean
Twelve