Originally posted by leonidas
runner isn't even the fastest being in marvel -- makari beat him by entering what appeared to be the mu's equivalent of the speedforce. mak claimed to have found the 'secret of fast'. or something close to that. if it truly is equivalent to the speedforce, and mak could beat him, flash certainly would. would flash beat mak . . .?not sure about that one because to the best of my knowledge that place mak entered to reach that speed (marvel speedforce) hasn't been more developed in marvel so it's hard to know its limits.
Mik said he finally reached lightspeed, and said that lightspeed is as fast as someone can go.
Which we know is untrue in Marvel. SS does multiples of light, so does Runner.
That comic is better left unread.
Originally posted by roughrider
I believe one other thing - The Runner, like Northstar, is not a true speedster. In the sense that they can reach enormous speeds, but it doesn't affect their natural reflexes. They don't do things like taking something apart or putting something together in a room - everyday tasks - as a blur in motion, like the Flash or Quicksilver.
I can agree with you on that one. True speedsters would be able to do anything in a blurring motion. Like reading books, reassembling an engine, etc.
Originally posted by long pig
That comic doesn't mean anything.Mik said he finally reached lightspeed, and said that lightspeed is as fast as someone can go.
Which we know is untrue in Marvel. SS does multiples of light, so does Runner.
That comic is better left unread.
thought you were in thor mode, not quasar mode . . . 😉
anyway, checking through that issue it seems you were . . . mostly correct. funny how you read that differently than i did. for some reason, i'd chosen to take that 'he becomes light' line (narrated, not spoken by mak) at the end of the race as a metaphor rather than a literal depiction of what happened. you may be right though in your reading of it. there's also the bit at the start where he's in that training tunnel and it says the speed of light does not hold sway in the tunnel, which again led me to think that perhaps he was able to break the speed of light. of one thing there IS no doubt -- the issue DID suck -- BIG time . . .
on a bit of a different note, light speed in marvel is handled very differently/inconsistently from book to book. sometimes when speed>c characters enter hyperspace. sometimes warp space. sometimes they go back in time. and sometimes (ala the infamous glads moving at '100x c'😉 they just . . . move that fast within the universe.
marvel really should decide exactly what DOES happen when one of their characters achieves speed>c.
Originally posted by leonidas
thought you were in thor mode, not quasar mode . . . 😉anyway, checking through that issue it seems you were . . . mostly correct. funny how you read that differently than i did. for some reason, i'd chosen to take that 'he becomes light' line (narrated, not spoken by mak) at the end of the race as a metaphor rather than a literal depiction of what happened. you may be right though in your reading of it. there's also the bit at the start where he's in that training tunnel and it says the speed of light does not hold sway in the tunnel, which again led me to think that perhaps he was able to break the speed of light. of one thing there IS no doubt -- the issue DID suck -- BIG time . . .
on a bit of a different note, light speed in marvel is handled very differently/inconsistently from book to book. sometimes when speed>c characters enter hyperspace. sometimes warp space. sometimes they go back in time. and sometimes (ala the infamous glads moving at '100x c'😉 they just . . . move that fast within the universe.
marvel really should decide exactly what DOES happen when one of their characters achieves speed>c.
But....it WAS a Quasar comic, so what can you expect?
Runner may not be a speedster per say, but he runs(obviously) and this competition is a race not a dual.
As for the speed of light, Gladiator of the Kree Empire flew a hundred times the speed of light from Pluto to Earth in Fantastic Four #249, he got to earth in seconds needless to say but he didn't travel through time. So if time travel occurs through velocity, then you have to flip light speed hundreds of times possibly more.
By the way lets not forget that Runner has dedicated obsessively the last Five Billion years of his existence to the art of speed.
how is that being a fan boy to say the truth read kingdom or kingdom come all the characters had been powered up to amazing levels even the villains and flash had been powered up to the point were he had total controll of the speed force and be everywere at once if they had a race there would be no point flash would already be at the finish line get it there is nothing fanboyish about that i like thanos but unlike the real fanboys i dont say stuff like oh he can beat the queen of fables or he can defeat a none jobberseid darkseid now thats fanboyism get the two straight.