in a race from a to b the runner would have to go all the way from a to b even if its a nano second but the flash at full potential would be at point b already before the race even strated in fact he could be at both point a and b at the same time at full potential flash wins this why is this debate still going?
Originally posted by Mider
how is that being a fan boy to say the truth read kingdom or kingdom come all the characters had been powered up to amazing levels even the villains and flash had been powered up to the point were he had total controll of the speed force and be everywere at once.
actually hea was everywhere at once, but only in the city he was protecting, not the entire world.
Originally posted by Juntai
And in multiple dimensions and times.
true, he did shift in and out of dimensions in Kingdom Come, but he did this unwittingly and there for didn't have total control over it, this is why he found the old man hanging with spectre towards the end of the series, if he trully was everywhere, in every dimension at the same time, he would have seen him from the very start.
The runner is in class 100 in strength can increase it with his primodial powers, even silver surfer stated that you are stronger than me. The Runner runs at war-speed out the gate. The Runner can increase his other abilities at will with the primodial powers including his speed. King Come Flash could be equal with The Runner in speed other than that The Runner is more powerful.
Originally posted by the DarkoneFlash can warpspeed instantly as well, time and dimension travel, hit with the force of stars, instantly regenerate, etc.
The runner is in class 100 in strength can increase it with his primodial powers, even silver surfer stated that you are stronger than me. The Runner runs at war-speed out the gate. The Runner can increase his other abilities at will with the primodial powers including his speed. King Come Flash could be equal with The Runner in speed other than that The Runner is more powerful.
I'm not arguing who can win a fight though.
When he's using the full effect of the speedforce, time pretty much stops altogether, so it doesn't actually take time to move. One of his first trips into the speedforce dimension, he was -walking- ftls around the planet with Max Mercury.
Originally posted by Juntai
Flash can warpspeed instantly as well, time and dimension travel, hit with the force of stars, instantly regenerate, etc.
I agree, except the dimesion traveling, if your refering to kingdom come that is, i know for a fact he did not have total control over his dimension jumping.
but he did shift in and out of dimesions all the time, but randomly without order.
Originally posted by unknowableHe also had flight, looking on page 77.
I agree, except the dimesion traveling, if your refering to kingdom come that is, i know for a fact he did not have total control over his dimension jumping.
but he did shift in and out of dimesions all the time, but randomly without order.
And he's not in ALL dimension but it appears as though can control it.
"I heard Flash described as a man too fast to be contained by one plane of existance. Apperently entire strate of realities are open to him. So settled am I in my role as a spirit... that I had forgotten that fact."
And apperently can pull souls between dimensions, as done at that moment.
But in that initial post, I was refering to CURRENT Flash being able to do all of those things via speedforce and superspeed.
Originally posted by Juntai
He also had flight, looking on page 77.
true,
but look at the page where he finds the old man, chillin in another dimension with spectre, it explains how Flash is always transitioning from one dimension to another, but apparently without order, which suggest he does this unconciously,
without control.
but perhaps he could concentrate and shift into a specific dimension(i don't know)but he's definately not in every dimension at once.
Originally posted by Juntai
And he's not in ALL dimension but it appears as though can control it."I heard Flash described as a man too fast to be contained by one plane of existance. Apperently entire strate of realities are open to him. So settled am I in my role as a spirit... that I had forgotten that fact."
And apperently can pull souls between dimensions, as done at that moment.
But in that initial post, I was refering to CURRENT Flash being able to do all of those things via speedforce and superspeed.
oh ok, i was only focusing on kingdom come.
Flash is no joke.