NJO Luke to powerful and over exaggerated

A totally unfounded theory that's only ever hinted at. At best. With the best sources hearsay and rumors. And anakin's still the Force selected Chosen one so if Plageuis DID make him, Plageuis got played like a fiddle by the Force

lmao

Right. The idea that Plageus created Anakin is unfounded, but the idea that Anakin's Chosen by the Force (And not by some stupid, cocked up prophecy) isn't? Boy, are you a piece of work.

Well, it's only the point of Star Wars. Y;know, Chosen One, destined to bring balance...kinda canonical fact'n all...or was Lucas lying when he said he left it ambiguous and Anakin fulfilled the Prophecy by tossing Sidious down the reactor?-commentary given on the DVDs, I believe

The prophecy is canon... But being "chosen" by the Force and being its offspring? Begs for proof.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
A totally unfounded theory that's only ever hinted at. At best. With the best sources hearsay and rumors. And anakin's still the Force selected Chosen one so if Plageuis DID make him, Plageuis got played like a fiddle by the Force

Note that it is said in the Essenatial Guide to Chronology that Anakin was made by Plagueis.

I'm sure the Essential Chronology is wrong or something along those lines.

No it didn't. It said 'apparently', 'it is rumored' and so on and so forth. Never are we offered anything truly concrete. And as for the Chosen One...well. if you're the Chosen One for the Prophecy, than who chose you?

It's some spooky jesus christ story with the force chosing someone to bring piece back to it. Lucas apperantly decided to make it more interesting at some point and EU writers would probably love to accept it. But as far as my knowledge takes me; it's still up to us to decide.

Janus is back. I bow before you!

Just an introduction....

Thought you should know that yesterday on Star Wars Galaxies I came across the mangled corpse of an NPC called Janus...covered in sand and the exploded wreck of his speederbike and surrounded by Stormtroopers. I feared the worst......

Anyway...Luke is only that uber because there was the market for a series after the Thrawn trilogy and writers thought the only way, and ironically probably the most sensible way, was having Luke become a Force god.

Only blame yourself. *points finger of damnation*

Just like it was 'marketable; to introduce a race supposedly evil Gods that turned out to be a group of incompetents? Storywise, Luke just is that uber and good.

Yes it was. The market was there.

I know what you saying but it wouldn't be storywise if we weren't all suckers for Star Wars.

There wouldn't be a LOT of things if we weren't suckers for Star Wars...KOTOR is one of those things...on another point, does anyone else think Kevin Anderson really screwed the entire Jedi era thing up? The 'Gods among Gods' are portrayed as sniveling, cowardly and idiotic beauracrats... (What Sith need INDUCEMENTS to go to war?!) The Jedi are apparently helping cruel dictators, we have those wretched 'wonder twins'...Ludo Kressh-why was this guy ever allowed in a position of power? Why did he die a panel after his sudden reappearance?

The Kun stuff was almost as bad at points, but very good characters saved it....except Ulic, Ulic was a complete moron.

However, for Luke: Him becoming the greatest and strongest Force User ever makes perfect sense. He's the grandson of the Force, he's devoted himself to training with holocrons and new philosophies and he's dedicated as hell with the right views and great access to the Force

I can't bothered to read all but the first point which I would say you are correct for...

And most people like KOTOR and the whole Ancient Sith era where it seems a lot are buggered off with NJO Luke, although I'm quite passive about it.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Note that it is said in the Essenatial Guide to Chronology that Anakin was made by Plagueis.

Here's the issue: It never did 'seem a lot.' A lot of the Ancient Sith were simply blown out of proprtion and the Jedi in the era never did anything so amazingly incredible in the comics. They were general, ordinary Star Wars stories and only thanks to KOTOR-I have a bit of a grudge to this game now, even though I love it-people continuosuly think the ancients were godly...

Just my rant there. I've never seen a true gap of power between the old and new Jedi....eh, least it's not as bad as Jedi vs. Sith....Bane is always, ALWAYS killing children.

There baddies, villains....There supposed to be uber. It@s no fun if the heroes are too stong etc

That's true....however, Palpatine and Vader were exceptional villains who could match most any Jedi. However, most of the Sith are totally incompetent...and it's the fan perceptions that seems to hurl them into the realm of overpowered, nothing they do in the comics really qualifies. Kun was one of the few who ever really displayed both power and competence...Sadow and Kressh were idiots, Ulic, Crado and the Ketos? Freedon Nadd?

Originally posted by exanda kane
Janus is back. I bow before you!

Just an introduction....

Thought you should know that yesterday on Star Wars Galaxies I came across the mangled corpse of an NPC called Janus...covered in sand and the exploded wreck of his speederbike and surrounded by Stormtroopers. I feared the worst......

Anyway...Luke is only that uber because there was the market for a series after the Thrawn trilogy and writers thought the only way, and ironically probably the most sensible way, was having Luke become a Force god.

Only blame yourself. *points finger of damnation*

zOMG! I died in teh desert!

Originally posted by Shadow x 20
Do we even know if Plagueis existed? Palp could have made him up to turn Anakin.

Well, it seems to point strongly to the idea of Plageus creating Anakin. The idea that Anakin just popped into existance because the Force thought a snot nosed brat would help the balance (Which he did AFTER he destroyed it) was only held by jedi council members, and they were even doubting it.

Notice that Sidious never once calls Anakin the Chosen One. Ever. The way he takes a liking to Anakin from the get-go leaves me to further believe that he knew of Anakin's identity and origins, and the idea of letting him grow up on Tattooine was probably to raise him away from the jedi council. Note that Qui-Gon says something to the effect of "had he been born in Republic space, he would have been found by the jedi." Obviously, Anakin was hidden for a reason.