Originally posted by Lightsnake
Yes. Dark Side Sourcebook, Bane himself. Yoda, Dark Empire...
Uh, okay.
- Dark Side Sourcebook. Tell us where it is, or type it out if you could.
- Bane. Name the quote and where it's at.
- Yoda. When does Yoda say this? How valid a source is he?
- Dark Empire. Substantiate.
DS sourcebook should be around the discussion on Azrakel and Palp.
Bane: In Jedi vs. Sith, Bane says the Dark Side has become dilluted with too many lords, "There should be one to embody the power, one to crave it. Even the strongest wine cannot be felt in an ocean of weak water. And when the second learns all from the first, the first will die."
Dooku discusses this in the comics as well.
I didn't say Yoda says it, I said he was described as it: In the ROTS novelization and Dark rendevous.
DE: After the comic itself, there's a bit talk about the pasts of the Jedi and Sith at the end, and in the DE sourcebook, it says the line had strengthed and culminated with Palpatine
Originally posted by Lightsnake
DS sourcebook should be around the discussion on Azrakel and Palp.
Bane: In Jedi vs. Sith, Bane says the Dark Side has become dilluted with too many lords, "There should be one to embody the power, one to crave it. Even the strongest wine cannot be felt in an ocean of weak water. And when the second learns all from the first, the first will die."
Dooku discusses this in the comics as well.
I didn't say Yoda says it, I said he was described as it: In the ROTS novelization and Dark rendevous.
DE: After the comic itself, there's a bit talk about the pasts of the Jedi and Sith at the end, and in the DE sourcebook, it says the line had strengthed and culminated with Palpatine
Bane had a particular disdain for the Brotherhood of Darkness. I doubt his rather vague statement covers everything before his own time and up until Sidious' time.
And Yoda is described as potentially being the most dangerous dark side user ever if he had decided to go dark. However, this was from the mind of a rather intimidated Dooku. I wouldn't consider this gospel.
And about DE, this statement doesn't seem to support itself. After all, DE Sidious is another animal altogether, with ancient Sith artifacts and another body. Why would strengthening the line mean anything, anyways? Sidious had one master, and he apparently killed him. Is that not there knowledge lost?
Anyways, I for one don't buy into this idea and I haven't seen anything convincing enough.
Originally posted by Boris
Knowing nothing about 'NJO', someone enlighten me me as to why Luke is "too powerful and over exaggerated"?
I'm here for you bub.
First, NJO=new jedi order. At this point, luke is in his 50's, so it's a while after the movies.
The reason he's refered to as overpowered is because of some of the feats he performs. Here's a quick list:
uses a lightsaber fast enough for it to look like it's twenty
cuts his way through literally thousands of vong(nasty invaiders)
moves blackholes
uses the force to throw star destroyers around, can apparently rip the engines out of them
Can use a more powerful form of force lightning
make entire plantes dissapear.
THis is just off the top of my head, there's probably more.
Originally posted by Dark Aristokrat
Bane had a particular disdain for the Brotherhood of Darkness. I doubt his rather vague statement covers everything before his own time and up until Sidious' time.And Yoda is described as potentially being the most dangerous dark side user ever if he had decided to go dark. However, this was from the mind of a rather intimidated Dooku. I wouldn't consider this gospel.
And about DE, this statement doesn't seem to support itself. After all, DE Sidious is another animal altogether, with ancient Sith artifacts and another body. Why would strengthening the line mean anything, anyways? Sidious had one master, and he apparently killed him. Is that not there knowledge lost?
Anyways, I for one don't buy into this idea and I haven't seen anything convincing enough.
1. Thing is, Bane was 100 percent right on the Brotherhood's folly....if anyone acted like an ancient, it was Bane...I'll wait for the novel he'll be in soon anyways.
2. Even before ROTS, Palpatine had been training on Korriban and learning from Ragnos himself, absorbing power and so on and so forth....and one of those Yoda quotes was from the omniscient narrarator view Stover seems to love
3. Dooku addresses the 'knowledge lost' thing to Quin Vos: The student learns all the master does, maybe gives his own twists on it, adds new doctrine, then murders the Master. Palpatine was in his....what, fifties, forties when he murdered Plageuis and already getting help from Ragnos and his ilk? That compensates more than enough...hell, by ROTS, Palpatine had been studying Andeddu's holocron and may have absorbed its power as well.
4. In DE, Palpatine is never shown to use Sith artifacts and his bodies consisted of his Hand Jeng Droga, as well as clones and the clones couldn't contain his power entirely.