3 year old kidnapped....

Started by silver_tears8 pages

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So...you're claiming you remember things from two years old?

Irene:

I agree in that sense but my question way, do you think you would be better or worse off if your parents continually emphasised to you, the trauma? Akin to a parent being overly worried about their kid scraping their knee, making the situation worse.

-AC

Worse off if they continually emphasized it without a reason, I think we all have coping mechanisms in us, and the girl although young will be able to live a regular life if the problem is properly dealt with. Not swept under the rug but not needlessly thrown in her face.

And back to my more important question, do we actually know if the attacker was male?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom

To various people: yes, we do know that the perpetrators were male, and the victim was actually a girl, so let's exorcise the masculine pronouns.

Ah missed this post...
How do we know? Like is there a link or something I'm missing?

VVD, I do understand his posts. I usually applaud his train of thought. But I absolutely detest the fact that when he's having a 'discussion' with someone he always attempts to get the upper hand, by any means necessary. We can all state our thoughts and opinions maturely and in a formal manner, why go one step further and portray ourselves as obnoxious to boot?

isay just leave it alone man.. if i was sanked up at 3, i wouldnt want some damn counseler drumming it into my freaking ear all the time.. take it from somenone who has been to cousneling b4(me) all they do is ask you to relive it over and over. what the experience was like, and how it felt as it was happening... questions along those lines. i dont think a little girl would find that tooo pleasnt, even if its ten years down the line. if I were the girls parents i would tell her thats its her distant cousin June bug, and he was just playing a little rough with her thats all...no harm no foul, nothing to have nightmares about.

Originally posted by Syren
VVD, I do understand his posts. I usually applaud his train of thought. But I absolutely detest the fact that when he's having a 'discussion' with someone he always attempts to get the upper hand, by any means necessary. We can all state our thoughts and opinions maturely and in a formal manner, why go one step further and portray ourselves as obnoxious to boot?

Beyond the first sentence isn't really relevant to my post, but regarding your reply- you did state that you do not. That is the reason I said it; I wasn't merely accusing you of lacking understanding.

Originally posted by silver_tears
Ah missed this post...
How do we know? Like is there a link or something I'm missing?

I know personally because I read the story earlier today. I can't explain why anyone else does or does not know, though.

Syren, either you understand my posts or you don't. You've claimed both now, make up your mind. VVD is right. I don't see the point on coming on a forum to discuss with people if you're gonna just make everything unable to be understood. My posts are easy to get and nobody else has as many problems with them as you do. Grasping them at least.

You just don't get my posts for other reasons that you aren't willing to admit yet, clearly. You think of yourself as quite intelligent, but you don't get my posts. So you're either not as smart as you think, or you give me more credit for my posts that I want or need, only to blame it on me later.

For PVS:

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's not a common occurance for adults to retain mass details of things that occur at such a young age. Fair enough, I should have indeed noted that it wasn't likely as opposed to not possible. But what's this!

There are these things called past, present and future tense. I used some in my post, see if you can figure out where and then use that to see where you went wrong in pulling that out. Sweet.

-AC

Ah I see, because that first post doesn't give the sex and it seemed presumptuous to assume the assaulter was male 😬

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Beyond the first sentence isn't really relevant to my post, but regarding your reply- you did state that you do not. That is the reason I said it; I wasn't merely accusing you of lacking understanding.

I believe I said I 'misread' some posts. I read quickly, that's probably my worst sin. In being eager to respond to a thread, but wanting to ensure I don't simply repeat what someone else has already said, I scan the thread from start to finish. Forgive me if I don't absorb every word.

Originally posted by Syren
As for missing points, we're all guilty of that. Maybe I misread a post or two, maybe I get a little over-enthusiastic and skip a post entirely, consequently making myself look a little silly when I comment and it's obvious I don't quite understand the gist. So what? Am I a criminal? I grasp most concepts given enough time, but that's not good enough for you is it? My mistakes are your ammunition, and that's just sad.
Originally posted by manjaro
isay just leave it alone man.. if i was sanked up at 3, i wouldnt want some damn counseler drumming it into my freaking ear all the time.. take it from somenone who has been to cousneling b4(me) all they do is ask you to relive it over and over. what the experience was like, and how it felt as it was happening... questions along those lines. i dont think a little girl would find that tooo pleasnt, even if its ten years down the line. if I were the girls parents i would tell her thats its her distant cousin June bug, and he was just playing a little rough with her thats all...no harm no foul, nothing to have nightmares about.

No, lying about it would be a very bad idea. This story's in the news...imagine the parents lied about it and later she found out what really happened.

It'd be worse if she had nightmares and such and never knew why because her parents had lied.

I have to go, but I really don't want anyone to accuse me of running out on a discussion. I'm probably fighting a losing battle here, reason enough for me to make a sharp exit, but that's not the case. I need sleep 🙂

Originally posted by Syren
I believe I said I 'misread' some posts. I read quickly, that's probably my worst sin. In being eager to respond to a thread, but wanting to ensure I don't simply repeat what someone else has already said, I scan the thread from start to finish. Forgive me if I don't absorb every word.

You can't scan threads, yet claim to have a desire for being informed and involved on the topic. It leads to not understanding points or posts. Which you do, and have confirmed/denied this multiple times.

"consequently making myself look a little silly when I comment and it's obvious I don't quite understand the gist."

Come on. Furthermore, don't cite being obnoxious as a negative. You recently praised yourself for having such an attitude in the OTF today.

-AC

AC,

"Maybe I misread a post or two, maybe I get a little over-enthusiastic and skip a post entirely, consequently making myself look a little silly when I comment and it's obvious I don't quite understand the gist."

The whole sentence, if you don't mind.

Originally posted by silver_tears
It'd be worse if she had nightmares and such and never knew why because her parents had lied.
True which many parent just want to sweep it under the rug which leaves children despondent, wondering and acting out. What's wrong with me they wonder...It has to be tempered with caution and reality.

oh, no wonder, since it was lost in a turbulant sea of belittling excrement:

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
And the hypocricy flies. It really does puzzle me how someone with such zest for striking down hypocrites is, infact, one of the biggest on this site.

Oh look, kids. PVS missed a part again:

[b]How likely is it that a 3 year old is going to grow up and have a traumatic life as a result of something she/he isn't even old enough to remember or connect feelings to?

It's not a common occurance for adults to retain mass details of things that occur at such a young age. Fair enough, I should have indeed noted that it wasn't likely as opposed to not possible. But what's this!

There are these things called past, present and future tense. I used some in my post, see if you can figure out where and then use that to see where you went wrong in pulling that out. Sweet.

Stats are like a lamp post to a drunk man. More for leaning on than actual illumination. I've said it before and I'm saying it again.

How many adults do YOU know who can tirelessly and effectively remember details so graphically, that it disturbs them? From age 3 or circa that time. When it's speculation all you can do is say likely or unlikely, which is what I did. I said likely. See? Read the quote.

Moreover, you've done the exact same thing no more than a couple posts ago.

When did this become about the amount of parents who contribute to trauma and the amount who don't? It's the effect who those who do compared to those who don't, that I have proposed YOU look into. Come back and join the topic, PVS.

So the little recap didn't work. Cool, we'll go over it again (which I'm surpised at since you already agreed with me):

A parental unit who intervene with their children and continually remind them OF the trauma, will have more of a negative effect than those who do not. Simple logic. It's like on South Park (hopefully not too offensive for you) when Cartman is trying to convince Butters to vote for his side. He emphasises that his side is better and emphasises that Kyle's side is worse. Therefore, Butters is immediately influenced to pick Cartman's one.

Point? If a parent drills it into you that you were sexually abused, throughout your life, then it will quite obviously have a more negative effect that parents who don't emphasise or raise the issue.

I'll let that sink in.

P...PVS? I'm over here. Where are you going? Here, this is my point:

Parental intervention involving the constant reminder of childhood abuse will result in negative outcomes more likely than parents who do not raise the issue all the time. Confirm or deny? (You've already confirmed it, but let's do it for a laugh).

The only one winning is you, and that's for KMC most hypocritical member. Don't foolishly try the age old tactic of trying to underpin some kind of "You're trying to win" schtick against me for the millionth time, PVS. You're better than that surely. I'm just discussing, no winning or losing to me.

So come on, you're not a stupid idiot. It's quite obvious what is the more likely of occurances isn't it? Parents constantly reminding the kid that he was abused will more likely result in trauma than parents who don't continually remind the kid. You don't need to be Stephen Hawking to work it out.

N-not that many was there? Nah. Never mind.

-AC [/B]

you admitted no fault, but rather used an unrelated point to 'win' again. and look how far back you had to dig to still avoid the point.
how desperate can one get

oh did i spell that all correctly? i hope so 🙄

Originally posted by PVS
oh, no wonder, since it was lost in a turbulant sea of belittling excrement:

you admitted no fault, but rather used an unrelated point to 'win' again. and look how far back you had to dig to still avoid the point.
how desperate can one get

oh did i spell that all correctly? i hope so 🙄

I admitted the fault I committed. Sorry if it's not one that you'd like me to admit to. I'd like you to admit to being an oversensitive hypocrite, which this and many other threads have exposed you as. You won't though. As for avoiding the point, you were the one who took it upon yourself to drop the discussion. I made a point, a point you agreed with. So before you churn on about excrement, maybe you should notch up a point on your hypocricy licence.

Either way, I admitted I shouldn't have said what I did. Like it or leave it. You've chosen the third, unlisted option of "Ignore, but continue being on my period." Can't help you there.

Originally posted by Syren
AC,

"Maybe I misread a post or two, maybe I get a little over-enthusiastic and skip a post entirely, consequently making myself look a little silly when I comment and it's obvious I don't quite understand the gist."

The whole sentence, if you don't mind.

Yes exactly.

You don't quite understand some posts. Mine included, and they aren't - as VVD stated - pitched that high. Which was the point. If you understand my posts, then say so. Don't retort with "but sometimes I don't for this reason." You either do, or you don't. It's quite evident from this thread and multiple threads that you don't.

-AC

jesus H christ you ****ers just take all the fun out of rape stories with all this bickering

Originally posted by manjaro
jesus H christ you ****ers just take all the fun out of rape stories with all this bickering

You sir are an idiot ✅

Originally posted by silver_tears
You sir are an idiot ✅