Originally posted by tanjot
anyways...let me start off new conversation by saying....carter is a better player than wade hands down.
This isnt really anything new though is it? You've had the same opinion this whole time and so far nobody has agreed with you.
Wade > Carter.
Kobe >>> Carter
KG >>> Carter
Duncan >>> Carter
LeBron > Carter
AI >> Carter
T-Mac > Carter
Shawn Bradley >> Carter (just kidding, you can have that one). 😉
Originally posted by koolruningz
This isnt really anything new though is it? You've had the same [B]opinion this whole time and so far nobody has agreed with you.Wade > Carter.
Kobe >>> Carter
KG >>> Carter
Duncan >>> Carter
LeBron > Carter
AI >> Carter
T-Mac > Carter
Shawn Bradley >> Carter (just kidding, you can have that one). 😉 [/B]
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since u dont agree with me on wade, and kobe, ill give u that, even kg, ill give u that...but a.i. and t-mac, ill argue those two much more than this...and dan....who was it again that vince dropped 51 on?? OH YEAH...it was the heat, that was the same game that wade shot...4-20fg wasnt it?? OH YEAH IT WAS.
carter better than ai?? haha... you make me laugh man... hes tougher than vince and half a foot smaller! plus hes an incredible scorer, good passer, and hes changed to his teams needs... unlike vince, who, once again i'll say this, bolted rather than adapt in toronto. carter better than mcgrady? possibly...
If i could add either Carter or T-Mac to the Lakers it would be T-Mac. He is a better defender (not great but better), he is a better ballhandler, has a better mid range game (deadly pull up jumper), better range on his jumpshot and he is a better passer. Oh but wait Vince has more top ten plays, ok i changed my mind i want the best dunker.
Originally posted by darth_royke
carter better than ai?? haha... you make me laugh man... hes tougher than vince and half a foot smaller! plus hes an incredible scorer, good passer, and hes changed to his teams needs... unlike vince, who, once again i'll say this, bolted rather than adapt in toronto. carter better than mcgrady? possibly...
Exactly what I was going to say. McGrady is the only guy that I see any legit argument being possibly made.
Originally posted by tanjot
since u dont agree with me on wade, and kobe, ill give u that, even kg, ill give u that...but a.i. and t-mac, ill argue those two much more than this...and dan....who was it again that vince dropped 51 on?? OH YEAH...it was the heat, that was the same game that wade shot...4-20fg wasnt it?? OH YEAH IT WAS.
Two games in a row, against the Jazz and Clippers, Vince had a combined 8 points, and he went 3-23.
Also, Vince Carter has Jason Kidd, one of the best passers in the league, giving him assists all day. Who does Wade have? Jason Williams. Thats who he has, and Williams is a shoot first PG.
Also, Heat Record = 37-20
Nets Record = 31-26.
I remeber you saying it doesn't matter unless your team is winning, and right now, and for the rest of the season, the Heat are doing a better job than that.
Also, saying Vince Carter is better than AI is like saying Earl Boykins could beat Kevin Garnett 1 on 1. Its just stupid, and you have to be stupid if you actually believe it.
Originally posted by DanZeke25
Two games in a row, against the Jazz and Clippers, Vince had a combined 8 points, and he went 3-23.Also, Vince Carter has Jason Kidd, one of the best passers in the league, giving him assists all day. Who does Wade have? Jason Williams. Thats who he has, and Williams is a shoot first PG.
Also, Heat Record = 37-20
Nets Record = 31-26.
I remeber you saying it doesn't matter unless your team is winning, and right now, and for the rest of the season, the Heat are doing a better job than that.Also, saying Vince Carter is better than AI is like saying Earl Boykins could beat Kevin Garnett 1 on 1. Its just stupid, and you have to be stupid if you actually believe it.
WOOOOOOOW. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW. so ur telling me all dwayne wade has is jason williams?? LOOOL. ok, first off, he has SHAQ, one of the 50 GREATEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME...um... i dont think its really hard for someone that can play the pg position to be able to dish out atleast 5 assists a game when u have SHAQ on ur team. and again...way to go with the extreme exaggeration, i know you dont think much of vince and like myth thinks i do, i dont want anyone here to agree with me fully...all i want is that you give vince as much respect as he deserves, which he obviously does not recieve. a vince to iveron comparison is not NEARLY the same as a earl boykins to kevin garnett comparison. vince is not a joke, as you claim he is. one on one, between vince and iverson, ill take vince anyday. in a team game, ill say vince is a better shooter, and can get to the basket more easily but refuses to drive some games for some reason which does piss me off. iverson likes to drive all game long, is a good passer because he is a pg and he will get the assists but im telling you right now that vince carter is a very underrated passer, i know you wont agree...but i know he is. both are good free throw shooters, get their teammates open looks, can make the mid range and 3 point jumpshot where i give vince the slight edge, can handle the ball and i give iverson the obvious advantage on that. so all im trying to say is that you do not need to agree with me, but do not overexaggerate because i know if any commentator or even coach was to see what you wrote they would disagree to the extent that you wrote it. not saying they would agree with mine fully, but my argument would be MUCH more reasonable and understantable.
Originally posted by tanjot
WOOOOOOOW. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW. so ur telling me all dwayne wade has is jason williams?? LOOOL. ok, first off, he has SHAQ, one of the 50 GREATEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME...um... i dont think its really hard for someone that can play the pg position to be able to dish out atleast 5 assists a game when u have SHAQ on ur team. and again...way to go with the extreme exaggeration, i know you dont think much of vince and like myth thinks i do, i dont want anyone here to agree with me fully...all i want is that you give vince as much respect as he deserves, which he obviously does not recieve. a vince to iveron comparison is not NEARLY the same as a earl boykins to kevin garnett comparison. vince is not a joke, as you claim he is. one on one, between vince and iverson, ill take vince anyday. in a team game, ill say vince is a better shooter, and can get to the basket more easily but refuses to drive some games for some reason which does piss me off. iverson likes to drive all game long, is a good passer because he is a pg and he will get the assists but im telling you right now that vince carter is a very underrated passer, i know you wont agree...but i know he is. both are good free throw shooters, get their teammates open looks, can make the mid range and 3 point jumpshot where i give vince the slight edge, can handle the ball and i give iverson the obvious advantage on that. so all im trying to say is that you do not need to agree with me, but do not overexaggerate because i know if any commentator or even coach was to see what you wrote they would disagree to the extent that you wrote it. not saying they would agree with mine fully, but my argument would be MUCH more reasonable and understantable.
I was talking point guard only. Otherwise, I would have mentioned Shaq and I would have mentioned Jefferson also for the Nets.
And of course its not nearly the same and Boykins and Garnett. That was a joke. But its still not as close as you believe it is.
Iverson plays with 100% more heart than Vince does. Iverson has been on a bad team since 2001, and still every single play he gives it 120%. IMO that counts when you are comparing players.
As for skills and stats, Iverson averages more points(33.2) and this is without anybody good passing him the ball. Vince has Jason Kidd who is agrueably one of the best passers in the league, even if he is getting older. Iverson also gets almost 8 assists a game, and gets to the free throw line more. Iverson is 5th in the league in steals also.