who is better, vince carter or dwayne wade?

Originally posted by tanjot
WOOOOOOOW. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW. so ur telling me all dwayne wade has is jason williams?? LOOOL. ok, first off, he has SHAQ, one of the 50 GREATEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME...um... i dont think its really hard for someone that can play the pg position to be able to dish out atleast 5 assists a game when u have SHAQ on ur team.

I don't understand how you mis-understand people so often. You guys were talking about scoring so Dan said that Williams is all Wade has as a PG to pass to him.

As for who gets to the line easier: Carter or Iverson? I have no idea. All I know is Iverson does it more often and it is more effective.

Originally posted by koolruningz
Carter gets to the basket easier than Iverson? Wow just, wow.

i didnt say he "does", i said he "could" because on many nights he settles for a lot of jumpshots whether he makes or missies a lot of em. iverson though...constantly drives and does not settle for jumpshots but i think he can not get to the basket as easily as vince can if vince chooses to.

You're still saying that Vince "can" get to the basket better than Iverson though, which to me means that you think that he is better at that skill. I dont agree, Iverson has way better handles and is much quicker than Carter, both of these skills are essential in getting to the hoop. I would go even further and say that Iverson gets to the hoop better than anyone in the league (Wade would be a close second).

by being able to drive i do not mean only drive using handles and quickness, i mean the ability to score...and i think it is more effortless for vince to score on a drive than it is for iverson, but iverson makes a better effort to drive than vince, who often settles for jumpshots.

WTF are you talking about? How do you drive to the hoop without dribbling the ball? Quickness and handles are essential for driving to the hoop, Iverson is superior in both areas.

If its so effortless for Carter, why does he settle for jump shots?

Originally posted by tanjot
feel free to give ur opinion, i dont mind trash talking but dont over-do it... i like a good debate.

Dwyane way better

Originally posted by Myth
If its so effortless for Carter, why does he settle for jump shots?

i have no idea, announcers even say it, it does piss me off though bcz he is also on my fantasy team.

Dwyane Wade > Vince Carter

Carter can only dunk (vv well btw lol) and sink the odd trey and/or jumper. Wade can distribute, shoot and dunk.

Originally posted by TMACalicious
Dwyane Wade > Vince Carter

Carter can only dunk (vv well btw lol) and sink the odd trey and/or jumper. Wade can distribute, shoot and dunk.

just read what i said in the tmac < carter thread....ill just say vince can dunk better than wade, he can shoot better than wade, and is a much better offensive player. vince is a MUCH better offensive rebounder than wade, and gets double teamed much more than him which creates a lot of open looks for his teammates. i give wade the edge on defence, and handles. vince can pass the ball just as well or better than wade even though he does not average 8 assists. the only reason wade averages a lot of assists is obviously because of shaq. and oh yeah, vince is a better free throw shooter than wade too.

Originally posted by Inspectah Deck
Dwyane way better

wheres the supporting argument?

Originally posted by tanjot
just read what i said in the tmac < carter thread....ill just say vince can dunk better than wade, he can shoot better than wade, and is a much better offensive player. vince is a MUCH better offensive rebounder than wade, and gets double teamed much more than him which creates a lot of open looks for his teammates. i give wade the edge on defence, and handles. vince can pass the ball just as well or better than wade even though he does not average 8 assists. the only reason wade averages a lot of assists is obviously because of shaq. and oh yeah, vince is a better free throw shooter than wade too.

Does it matter that Vince can jump a little higher and can do more flashy dunks when debating who is better? Funny, you don't bring up how Wade is great at taking contact and as a finisher, (which matters more than dunking) Wade is much better than Carter.

And yet Wade averages a much better FG percentage and scores three more points than Carter. Carter does have more range than Wade offensively, I'll give him that, but Carter is not the better offensive player.

Haha, yeah .2 percent is like a HUGE difference between the two in offensive rebounds.

It's not because of Shaq. Wade gets into the lane better than anybody in the league which consequently opens up teammates for open jumpers or dunks.

Not only that, but Wade gets just as much assits when Shaq is out nursing injuries so its dumb to say "obviously because of shaq". I'd say Carter only has two things over Wade, dunks and threes. Thats it.

Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove
Does it matter that Vince can jump a little higher and can do more flashy dunks when debating who is better? Funny, you don't bring up how Wade is great at taking contact and as a finisher, (which matters more than dunking) Wade is much better than Carter.

And yet Wade averages a much better FG percentage and scores three more points than Carter. Carter does have more range than Wade offensively, I'll give him that, but Carter is not the better offensive player.

Haha, yeah .2 percent is like a HUGE difference between the two in offensive rebounds.

It's not because of Shaq. Wade gets into the lane better than anybody in the league which consequently opens up teammates for open jumpers or dunks.

i said vince is much better than wade at grabbing the offensive board based on ability, whether it be a rebound, a tip in, or a tip slam which vince has done plenty of even in hiss days with the raptors...i did not mention stats.

Originally posted by tanjot
i said vince is much better than wade at grabbing the offensive board based on ability, whether it be a rebound, a tip in, or a tip slam which vince has done plenty of even in hiss days with the raptors...i did not mention stats.

You said "Vince is a MUCH better offensive rebounder than wade"

You never said based on ability. Everytime somebody proves you wrong, you try to change what you said to make it look like your right.

If Vince is "MUCH better at offensive rebounds based on 'ABILITY'" than he obviously isn't trying hard enough than if he only averages .2 more. 😐 And people who don't try shouldn't be paid. But, if he is trying 100% all the time, than he would have much more offensive rebounds than Wade, wouldn't he?

What the hell are you doing using logic Dan? You know that will just go over his head.

😆

Originally posted by koolruningz
What the hell are you doing using logic Dan? You know that will just go over his head.

😠 ok. first off, i dont know wtf you mean by trying to say that i do not understand logic. just because i do not agree with someone elses and i am defending vince from my logic and belief automatically means im wrong? and dan, you just quoted me saying that vince is a better offensive rebounder than wade based on ability, and then you say i didnt say that?? well if thats good logic, then you keep it up.

Originally posted by tanjot
😠 ok. first off, i dont know wtf you mean by trying to say that i do not understand logic. just because i do not agree with someone elses and i am defending vince from my logic and belief automatically means im wrong? and dan, you just quoted me saying that vince is a better offensive rebounder than wade based on ability, and then you say i didnt say that?? well if thats good logic, then you keep it up.

Listen buddy, in your VERY FIRST POST about Carter being the better offensive rebounder you didn't mention anything about ability. Then you relized that somebody proved you wrong, so you tried changing it to make you look right.

i said he is a much better offensive rebounder in my first post, meaning i did not mention whether i meant on stats or ability. then in ur next post u mentioned stats. i went on to say that what i said was he is better based on ability..so if i did not say it in my first post, then that is what i meant. i do not try to change my post to make myself look right, and i was not wrong to begin with.