Which Forum has the best debaters ?

Originally posted by Raz
OTF

Actually that's a very good point, I've noticed that debates in there tend to stay more level-headed than anywhere else on KMC.

What? They almost always result in someone calling someone else a "noob" and then awkward sexual innuendo.

Originally posted by BackFire
What? They almost always result in someone calling someone else a "noob" and then awkward sexual innuendo.

Is that a bad thing 🙂

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Well, if you asked me... I would say that the GDF has the best DEBATES, as they appeal to my taste more, I don't take the Comic versus forums seriously. But if you asked me which forum has housed the best debators, I would say the comic versus forum. Definately... Didn't you make your name there?

Note the fact that I am no longer there. I didn't make my name there. Well, I ended up becoming well known and respected in the comic forum. Just like I did anywhere else I went.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Demigawd is actually a music producer and knows alot about science, and psychology, but he doesn't know how to navigate around the forum... he stays in the comic versus lol.

Wait, so all that knowledge and the man can't navigate a forum? Forgive me for being a tad pessimistic. Science and psychology can be learned. I know many very, very booksmart people. Real intelligence can't be taught.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Creshosk knows alot about similar things, and gaming, and technology, but he has motor ellipsy. I honestly don't respect him for his knowledge on comics, as much as I do other things. 😬

Same with whirly, has alot of knowledge on physics and the like, but he isn't serious on the boards either.

Having knowledge makes you knowledgeable. Not intelligent. BIG, huge difference.

-AC

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Is that a bad thing 🙂

No, it can be unintentionally funny. But, it still isn't tactics that a good debater would use....except for irony maybe, which isn't the case usually.

Originally posted by Lana
Actually that's a very good point, I've noticed that debates in there tend to stay more level-headed than anywhere else on KMC.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I see - I was really just take the mickey playfully out of your post VVD, no offence meant as I like you. 🙂

No offence taken.

I just wondered where you were going with it.

Originally posted by BackFire
What? They almost always result in someone calling someone else a "noob" and then awkward sexual innuendo.

Not all 😛 there actually have been some debates started in there - unintentionally - that stayed without flying insults MUCH longer than any debate in here.

Yeah, but those usually involve people who aren't exclusive to the OTF. Like GDF folk or what have you.

Originally posted by BackFire
Yeah, but those usually involve people who aren't exclusive to the OTF. Like GDF folk or what have you.

The GDF has the worst trollin going on in my opinion, often by reasonably lucid people.

🙂

Originally posted by BackFire
Yeah, but those usually involve people who aren't exclusive to the OTF. Like GDF folk or what have you.

That's not always true either...the most recent one to come to mind was the one about atheists celebrating Christmas, for the most part that was myself, RJ, and a few other people who are primarily OTFers...and it did not turn nasty for many many pages. Even when it DID turn nasty it was still more civil than a lot of debates here.

Originally posted by Lana
Not all 😛 there actually have been some debates started in there - unintentionally - that stayed without flying insults MUCH longer than any debate in here.

I don't think any of the inmates have the cerebral wherewithal to recognise or formulate an insult.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Note the fact that I am no longer there. I didn't make my name there. Well, I ended up becoming well known and respected in the comic forum. Just like I did anywhere else I went.

Noted, my point was that there are great debators there, but shitty debates.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Wait, so all that knowledge and the man can't navigate a forum? Forgive me for being a tad pessimistic. Science and psychology can be learned. I know many very, very booksmart people. Real intelligence can't be taught.

Let me rephrase, he hasn't bothered, he has the vs forum on bookmark...

And yes you can't truly "gain" intelligence as you grow, you either have it or you don't... intelligence is like the sponge, the bigger the sponge the more intelligence you have.

The water in the bucket, would be knowledge. As you grow, you naturally gain more knowledge, so you have more water, but if someone is more intelligent, they have more water in their bucket at a younger age.

Wisdom, is how you use the water.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Having knowledge makes you knowledgeable. Not intelligent. BIG, huge difference.

-AC

Again, not always true, hence the use of the word "usually. How often does a quality discussion/debate come up in the OTF compared to GDF, and how many people who are primarily OTF users are actually good at debating?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I don't think any of the inmates have the cerebral wherewithal to recognise or formulate an insult.

😆 probably true

It's been my experience that the comic forum has the most active debates (and you can take "active" on many levels), while general discussion and philosophy tend to be more cerebral and, um, often self-aggrandizing/pedantic; more "talking at" others than "talking to."

H'mm. I'm getting a very subtle impression from threads kinda along the lines of this one, that members may be starting to "tier" themselves, separate themselves by classes, as in, who are the earnest, well-meaning, here-for-the-fair-sport-and-fun-of-it debaters, and those who use the forum to, shall we say, act out?
I'm sure I'm not expressing this as well as it could be said, and hell, I could just be thoroughly imaging the whole darn thing.

💃

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
The GDF has the worst trollin going on in my opinion, often by reasonably lucid people.

🙂

I also wouldn't disagree with this, Whirly, but it's another issue entirely.

Originally posted by BackFire
Again, not always true, hence the use of the word "usually. How often does a quality discussion/debate come up in the OTF compared to GDF, and how many people who are primarily OTF users are actually good at debating?

Good point, though I would say that there are many people who are primarily OTFers that would do themselves a service to check out the other sections of the forums, because they're not ALL idiots.

Originally posted by BackFire
I also wouldn't disagree with this, Whirly, but it's another issue entirely.

Yes it is, I think the GDF also has the biggest egos.

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