Originally posted by KharmaDog
Can you please refer me to that article as I can seem to find it. And even if the Grand Master of the Texan Lodge was a Nazi sympathiser, it reflects as little on the Masonic order as does George Bush being an overly aggressive, incomprehensible buffoon with a tenuous grasp of the english language reflects on the millions of people he represents.Do you prefer "reality challenged" over wacko?
I never said the Masonic Lodge was a Neo-Nazi cult, I said that Bush was a Mason who sympathised with Nazis.
Deano, individuality and respect come when one has thoughts of his/her own to present.
Being a Parrot isn't something looked upon with respect. Spend some time reading the pages you link to then form your own conclusions.
Not dogging on you, but linking to entire web pages to make a point once in a while is fine. Utilizing such a practice to speak for you regularly looks lazy and lackluster.
In other words, it's not helping anyone and only hurting you. I'm sure you are smarter than that...
i dont want anyones respect. i do read all the pages i go on and i do form my own conclusions thanx. you are new to this site so you havent got a clue what has gone on around here, i have been arguing about this sort of stuff with people for over a year. and now a couple of threads have been created discussing things that have been discussed before. so forgive me for being a little lazy.
Originally posted by Deano
i dont want anyones respect.
convenient, considering your disposition
Originally posted by Deano
i do read all the pages i go on and i do form my own conclusions thanx.
to draw a conclusion you must weigh facts and then conclude on your own. that conclusion is then known as "opinion". you fail at this since you simply read rense.com and say "yeah...thats fact"... where exactly is the thought process in this? i mean apart from
reading and recognising words and sentences?
Originally posted by Deano
you are new to this site so you havent got a clue what has gone on around here,
indeed he is new, so let me explain. deano is in the state of denial and will ignore any valid point in order to preserve his "truth", which by the way was spoonfed by david icke and in no way a product of his own deductive reasoning. its easy, he feels smart when he does it, and nobody's going to stop him.
its a waste of time. you are as bad as me. you create threads on bush and other things and treat them as fact, when they may not be. you believe that 9/11 was no conspiracy but show no facts to prove it wrong but when i had shown you the facts you constantly dodged and wrote a lot of crap like you just did now.
your stupid if you think i dont conclude on my own.
Originally posted by Deano
its a waste of time. you are as bad as me. you create threads on bush and other things and treat them as fact,
no, i either post articles from the assosiated press, reuters, ny times, washington post...you know, valid and reputable sources for news.
occasionally i will post a thought provoking article, for instance the parallels between the administrations practices and that of a fascist regime, none of which is presented as 'fact' as you lie in claiming.
if you manage to find any quotes of mine to the contrary, feel free to post them, although im sure you'll respond with "i have better things to do" when you really mean "i made a weak attempt at lying and discrediting you and will make no attempt to back it up since there is nothing to find"
nice try
Originally posted by Deano
when they may not be. you believe that 9/11 was no conspiracy
i have said exactly the contrary but state clearly that the idea of a controlled demolition was idiotic and baseless, which it is. my own suspicion focuses on the lack of immediate response to the crisis.
but again, i present my ideas and am never idiotic enough to call them "the truth" like someone i know....
Originally posted by Deano
but show no facts to prove it wrong
and again, prove me wrong when i say that the earth is ruled by little fluffy bunnies who live in the cranial cavities of world leaders. as ridiculous as this is, there is no way to disprove it with any finality.
your logic seems to be that if there is no proof that something is untrue, then it must be true. what a backwards logic 😬
Originally posted by Deano
but when i had shown you the facts you constantly dodged and wrote a lot of crap like you just did now.
prove that bush is a nazi, and then prove that freemasons are some demonic organisation bent on enslaving the human race.
yeah i know "DUUUUUUH RENSE.COM SAYS IT!!!!1111ONEONE"
dont waste my time son 🙄
Originally posted by Deano
your stupid if you think i dont conclude on my own.
see? good job!! that was a conclusion!!! 😱 you observed and then formulated your OWN opinion, apparently that i'm 'stupid'.
its a first step, but to a much more enlightened world outside of your little conspiracy sites which you allow to spoonfeed you your opinions.
the journey of 1000 miles begins with a single step.
congrats 😉
Originally posted by PVS
and again, prove me wrong when i say that the earth is ruled by little fluffy bunnies who live in the cranial cavities of world leaders. as ridiculous as this is, there is no way to disprove it with any finality.
Those damn bunnies. I always knew it was the bunnies. It's all about the bunnies, screw the lizardmen, BEWARE THE BUNNIES.
🐰 🐰 🐰 🐰 🐰 🐰
Originally posted by PVS
no, i either post articles from the assosiated press, reuters, ny times, washington post...you know, valid and reputable sources for news.
valid? they get information off the government officials and they print what they say and you treat it as gospel. valid lol.
At ownership level, people like Conrad Black at the Hollinger Group and Rupert Murdoch of the News Corporation know what is going on. The editors they appoint might know something about it, as may certain columnists, but most of the journalists will have no idea. The editor is always there to block anything they write that is against the interests of the Illuminati - as directed by the owner-and if they insist on pursuing an unwelcome story they find themselves looking for another job. Most of the 'information' that journalists present comes from official (Illuminati) sources anyway. In the immediate aftermath of a major event such as September 11 th, where are the reporters getting their information from? Official sources! Name me a single piece of relevant information broadcast by the mainstream media about what happened on 9/11, how it was done, who did it and what the retaliation should be, that did not come from official sources. Not one! We are told that White House sources say this, FBI sources say that, and OA or Pentagon sources say the other. This is how the Illuminati transmit through the media the version of events they wish the public to believe. These reports are blazed across the front pages of newspapers and the top of radio and television news bulletins throughout the world, and what they say becomes the 'norm', the official 'history'. In the weeks and months that followed, researchers who are interested in the real truth begin to dig away.
Originally posted by PVS
and again, prove me wrong when i say that the earth is ruled by little fluffy bunnies who live in the cranial cavities of world leaders. as ridiculous as this is, there is no way to disprove it with any finality.
give me some links from websites? show me some books with good detailed writings? can you do that? no. so bang goes your silly point.
your really clutching at straws here.
Originally posted by PVS
your logic seems to be that if there is no proof that something is untrue, then it must be true. what a backwards logic 😬
well not really. you think that because the majority believes the crap the mainstream media spew, that when me or someone else questions there storys, we must provide the PROOF! yet you and the others dont ask for proof from the government or media, you just accept it as reality and its no poitn denying it because it is obvious. there are many detailed books and websites that go into the matters i talk about on here. thats the good thing about the internet you see. no one knows the exact plans of the elite, but with research and PROPER journalism, you can have a pretty good idea of what they want to achieve.
Over and over, real journalist establish and document the proof of how the official version was a lie from start to finish. But where are their reports published? In small-circulation newsletters, self-published books, on the Internet and radio stations that operate with a fraction of the money and potential audience of the Illuminati empires. Therefore, years after the official version has been demolished it still prevails in the public mind. Stop anyone in London, New York, Cape Town, Sydney, anywhere, and ask them what happened on September 11th, or in Oklahoma, the Second World War or Kosovo. Almost every time they'll give you the official story because that is the only one they have heard. If we had real mainstream journalism the problem-reaction-solution technique could not work. The official version of events would be investigated and shown to have no foundation. This fact would be communicated to the people and the public reaction, desired by the authorities, would not be forthcoming. But instead, we have media that is little more than a public relations office for the official version of life and that makes problem-reaction-solution a breeze for the manipulators.
and nowadays its easy to see who is right and who is the fool when you look at the world thats unfolding infront of our eyes. but you are scared to admit it.
Originally posted by PVS
prove that bush is a nazi, and then prove that freemasons are some demonic organisation bent on enslaving the human race.yeah i know "DUUUUUUH RENSE.COM SAYS IT!!!!1111ONEONE"
dont waste my time son 🙄
well done. did i say bush was a nazi? no so stop talking crap as usual. i said bush's grandfather funded the nazi's. freemasons in the lower ranks will not know what is going on. Look at any organisation today, a bank, business, university, government, whatever, and you will see that it is structured as a compartmentalised pyramid. The person who sits behind the counter in a bank will not know what their branch manager is deciding or planning, and the manager, in turn, will not know what is happening at regional level, and they will not know what is being planned at national level, and on it goes.
The only people who know the true plans and agenda of that bank are the handful at the top of the pyramid who know how all the innocent, individual, contributions by people employed by the bank fit together. The overwhelming majority of employees, including those in agencies like the CIA and FBI, have no idea what the big picture is because they are compartmentalised from what is going on elsewhere at their own level, let alone at higher and higher levels.
again you act like the typical idiot and dodge everything when ive told u all thsi before, and yet you continue with your antics as if to impress someone.
Originally posted by PVS
see? good job!! that was a conclusion!!! 😱 you observed and then formulated your OWN opinion, apparently that i'm 'stupid'.
its a first step, but to a much more enlightened world outside of your little conspiracy sites which you allow to spoonfeed you your opinions.the journey of 1000 miles begins with a single step.
congrats 😉
take a day off
Originally posted by Deano
valid? they get information off the government officials and they print what they say and you treat it as gospel. valid lol.
better than just making it all up, like your sources seem to do.
Originally posted by Deano
At ownership level, people like Conrad Black at the Hollinger Group and Rupert Murdoch of the News Corporation know what is going on. The editors they appoint might know something about it, as may certain columnists, but most of the journalists will have no idea. The editor is always there to block anything they write that is against the interests of the Illuminati - as directed by the owner-and if they insist on pursuing an unwelcome story they find themselves looking for another job. Most of the 'information' that journalists present comes from official (Illuminati) sources anyway. In the immediate aftermath of a major event such as September 11 th, where are the reporters getting their information from? Official sources! Name me a single piece of relevant information broadcast by the mainstream media about what happened on 9/11, how it was done, who did it and what the retaliation should be, that did not come from official sources. Not one! We are told that White House sources say this, FBI sources say that, and OA or Pentagon sources say the other. This is how the Illuminati transmit through the media the version of events they wish the public to believe. These reports are blazed across the front pages of newspapers and the top of radio and television news bulletins throughout the world, and what they say becomes the 'norm', the official 'history'. In the weeks and months that followed, researchers who are interested in the real truth begin to dig away.
thats how things work outside of fantasy land deano. the media reports the official story, because thats all their is to report. would you rather they pull fanatical tidbits out of their asses like:
"the 9/11 'attack' on the WTC was actually a planned and controlled demolition because some guy in our editing room who smokes alot of pot swears that he saw demolitions explosives, and some guy who said he installed the windows said to a friend who posted on this website that there were demolition charges in the walls... although every expert we have interviewed said that the sparks/flares were simply a result of buckling red hot steel, we just dont like that explanation because its boring and makes too much sense, so here's OUR story, which is fact btw, because some guy said so..."
the job of the media is to get information from official sources, interview those directly or indirectly involved, and report that to the people as well as they can.
you ENTIRE post is just a nonsensical rant on how the media doesnt pull conspiracy theories out of their asses, and how much that disappoints you.
Originally posted by Deano
give me some links from websites? show me some books with good detailed writings? can you do that? no. so bang goes your silly point.
your really clutching at straws here.
give me time to make one, and to tell friends on line to also make one, so we can site eachother as references. because of coarse, by your logic, if there is a website about it, then it MUST be true.
Originally posted by Deano
[B]well not really. you think that because the majority believes the crap the mainstream media spew, that when me or someone else questions there storys, we must provide the PROOF! yet you and the others dont ask for proof from the government or media, you just accept it as reality and its no poitn denying it because it is obvious. there are many detailed books and websites that go into the matters i talk about on here. thats the good thing about the internet you see. no one knows the exact plans of the elite, but with research and PROPER journalism, you can have a pretty good idea of what they want to achieve.
nobody ever asked for "proof". you put words in people's mouths because
you are too childish to address the point. people dont ask for 'proof' since such a request is impossible to fulfill. what we ask for is sources. valid sources.
your convoluded logic astounds me in the way you honestly belive that rense.com, a sit driven by profit from those who buy into their own theories, are more valid than the associated press or reuters. amazing.
*sigh* now to adress the rest of your massively redundant rant
Originally posted by Deano
Over and over, real journalist establish and document the proof of how the official version was a lie from start to finish. But where are their reports published? In small-circulation newsletters, self-published books, on the Internet and radio stations that operate with a fraction of the money and potential audience of the Illuminati empires. Therefore, years after the official version has been demolished it still prevails in the public mind. Stop anyone in London, New York, Cape Town, Sydney, anywhere, and ask them what happened on September 11th, or in Oklahoma, the Second World War or Kosovo. Almost every time they'll give you the official story because that is the only one they have heard. If we had real mainstream journalism the problem-reaction-solution technique could not work. The official version of events would be investigated and shown to have no foundation. This fact would be communicated to the people and the public reaction, desired by the authorities, would not be forthcoming. But instead, we have media that is little more than a public relations office for the official version of life and that makes problem-reaction-solution a breeze for the manipulators.
so unless people buy into your cult of lies, they are "sheeple" who will only quote the official source, and have no conclusion or opinion on the matter?
i understand that it is wise to not blindly accept the official version at face value, but again- in your logic of absolutes, you seem to think that true wisdom is accepting NOTHING in the official explanation and EVERYTHING that some wacko tells you. bravo!
problem-reaction-solution on a much smaller scale, but all the same, except the 'solution' you submit to is book sales for david icke and company.
Originally posted by Deano
and nowadays its easy to see who is right and who is the fool when you look at the world thats unfolding infront of our eyes. but you are scared to admit it.
i do not know who is 'right', since i am not a pompous and arrogant ass who blows hot air and claims to know the 'truth' when in actuality i am recieving all my info second hand just like 99.999999999999999% of the population, including yourself. difference: i choose credible sources who dont 'add' to their news or in the case of your loved sites, make it all up entirely...
Originally posted by Deano
well done. did i say bush was a nazi? no so stop talking crap as usual. i said bush's grandfather funded the nazi's. freemasons in the lower ranks will not know what is going on. Look at any organisation today, a bank, business, university, government, whatever, and you will see that it is structured as a compartmentalised pyramid. The person who sits behind the counter in a bank will not know what their branch manager is deciding or planning, and the manager, in turn, will not know what is happening at regional level, and they will not know what is being planned at national level, and on it goes.The only people who know the true plans and agenda of that bank are the handful at the top of the pyramid who know how all the innocent, individual, contributions by people employed by the bank fit together. The overwhelming majority of employees, including those in agencies like the CIA and FBI, have no idea what the big picture is because they are compartmentalised from what is going on elsewhere at their own level, let alone at higher and higher levels.
again you act like the typical idiot and dodge everything when ive told u all thsi before, and yet you continue with your antics as if to impress someone.
again, you quote this ignorant fanatical excrement as gospel. read what you typed on masons. you quote it all as gospel, as you claimed not to do.
that makes you a hypocrite and/or a liar.
say, why dont you quote more of icke's antisemetic misquotes of the jewish talmud? im sure you didnt mean to post the same forgery which fueled antisemitism in the early 1900's, but you did, and you quoted it as fact.
shall i provide the link for reference?
im not gonna even respond to half the crap you just posted. you say i havent got any logic, but then neither must you. i admit to what you are saying, and i understand it. but you obviously dont understand what im trying to say. or you do but dont want to admit it.
btw i didnt quote it as fact. someone asked what icke thought of jews. i posted what he himself said. post the link. im not hiding.
Originally posted by Deano
im not gonna even respond to half the crap you just posted.
...or any of the 'crap' i posted, as i expected 🙄
quite cowardly indeed
Originally posted by Deano
you say i havent got any logic, but then neither must you. i admit to what you are saying, and i understand it. but you obviously dont understand what im trying to say. or you do but dont want to admit it.
ahh, ignoring the direct source and drawing your own conclusion based on blind assumptions. icke would be so proud
Originally posted by Deano
btw i didnt quote it as fact. someone asked what icke thought of jews. i posted what he himself said. post the link. im not hiding.
bluff called:
Originally posted by Deano
i dont believe he is rascist from what ive read of his books. he thinks jews are vitims of there own beliefs. ive got the book if u want it.when icke talks about lizards, people think he means jews😐'' I have a great respect for the Jewish people. "''
"The Talmud must be the most racist document on Earth. Here are justa few examples of the depth of its spiritual sickness:
“Just the Jews are humans, the non-Jews are no humans, but cattle” Kerithuth 6b, page 78, iebhammoth 61
“The non-Jews have been created to serve the Jews as slaves” Midrasch Talpioth 225
“Sexual intercourse with non-Jews is like sexual intercourse with animals” Kethuboth 3b
“The non-Jews have to be avoided even more than sick pigs” Orach Chalim 57, 6a
“The birth rate of non-Jews has to be suppressed massively” Zohar 11, 4b
“As you replace lost cows and donkeys, so you shall replace non-Jews” Lore Dea 377,1" - [quotes from forged scripture]
Remember this horrific stuffwas not written by Judeans or ‘Jews’ as a people. They are victims of these beliefs, not the authorsIt was written by the Levites, representatives of the priestly bloodlines of the Babylonian Brotherhood, who have no moreallegiance to the Jewish people than did Adolf Hitler. To blame it on ‘the Jews’ is a nonsense and exactly what the Brotherhood want people to do because it creates enormous opportunities to divide and rule, the very foundation of their control. What horrors this manipulation has caused for ‘Jew’ and ‘Gentile’ alike.
again:
"They are victims of these beliefs" icke quotes it, you blindly accept it as truth, and then formulate your opinion based on a lie.
ok, im off on my lunch break. we can play more later 🙂
nothin cowardly about ti, i just find it staggering you find the time to repeat the crap you have posted before🙂
haha im glad you got that off your chest. and i wasnt bluffing son. im more then glad you found time to grab the link. again could you show me where i stated any of that as fact? no so run along little one. go read your ''valid sources'' then come back and tell me how im blindly following something. 😉
ok deano, lets try this again.
your own words:
"Remember this horrific stuffwas not written by Judeans or ‘Jews’ as a people. They are victims of these beliefs, not the authorsIt was written by the Levites, representatives of the priestly bloodlines of the Babylonian Brotherhood, who have no moreallegiance to the Jewish people than did Adolf Hitler. To blame it on ‘the Jews’ is a nonsense and exactly what the Brotherhood want people to do because it creates enormous opportunities to divide and rule, the very foundation of their control. What horrors this manipulation has caused for ‘Jew’ and ‘Gentile’ alike."