Police Force. No question.
I know many people who have joined the force strictly to get back at the world for having treated them so wrong in thier youth. Too many cops hide behind their badge while having no accountability for their actions whatsoever.
There are however many good cops scattered around, but more often than not, police work is like legal crime.
I also think no judge in this country should be able to hold a bench for more than 4 years.
Originally posted by ElectricCrow
Police Force. No question.I know many people who have joined the force strictly to get back at the world for having treated them so wrong in thier youth. Too many cops hide behind their badge while having no accountability for their actions whatsoever.
There are however many good cops scattered around, but more often than not, police work is like legal crime.
I also think no judge in this country should be able to hold a bench for more than 4 years.
The judge comment was a bit random...
Ok, but do you think it should be a force, or service? You know like, do you think they should act on the greater good of the community, interacting with people, gaining trust, etc...as opposed to enforcment policing, when they sit at the station and wait for someone to report something bad.
What do you think about stop and search?
To add to my post before. I also think the rules are actually there to aid the people, so if they are pointless (meaning no one gets hared) enforcing them jsut for some strange sense of morality is wrong. Now I know that the Police needs to stick to the Laws, but maybe some laws should be changed then.
I don't think my Judge comment was random at all. You are talking about enforcement of the law and the two go hand in hand.
People should appreciate a certain level of aptitude enabling them to do both, enforce the law while establishing themselves within a community. Right now we have 9 Judge Dredd Officers for every 1 Peace Officer.
It doesn't matter though because nothing is going to change. It won't be long before we are all living in a police state and all of our police officer are from Turky or something anyway.
First I think the figure 9 Judge Dredd to 1 Boy-Scout is a little out of proportion.
Second, I don't see the US being turned into a PoliceState, yes there are certain policies that make you wonder, but it won't happen I am rather sure (maybe I am jsut hoping though)
As for your slightly degrading mentioning of Turkish Police Officers. What did you mean with that?
Originally posted by ElectricCrow
Police Force. No question.I know many people who have joined the force strictly to get back at the world for having treated them so wrong in their youth. Too many cops hide behind their badge while having no accountability for their actions whatsoever.
There are however many good cops scattered around, but more often than not, police work is like legal crime.
I also think no judge in this country should be able to hold a bench for more than 4 years.
Woah, woah woah there my friend. As the new guy here you immediately make a post titled " Woah..Masons are'nt Nazi's." and go on about mass misunderstanding and generalizations about a group of people that though prevalent, are untrue, then you come to this thread and say something like ,"I know many people who have joined the force strictly to get back at the world for having treated them so wrong in their youth. Too many cops hide behind their badge while having no accountability for their actions whatsoever."
First off, you know many people who joined the police force to get back at the world? I suggest that this is either an over exagerration, a complete lie, or that you hang around, or associate with, the biggest population of dickheads concentrated in one area known to man.
Secondly, too many cops hide behind their badge while having no accountability for their actions whatsoever? You realize that there are far more good cops than bad cops (in north america at least) and it seems it's only the few bad ones that make the news as opposed to the 10's of thousands who go out there every day and do their f*cking job (and a thankless job it is)?
Lastly, don't go off about how people make harsh statements and rash generalizations about a group of people with no apparent idea of what they are talking about, and then skip to another thread and do exactly the same thing that you were b*tching against.
Quite an impression you're making on your first day here.
It wasn't a racial slur.
What I'm saying is, if we ever end up under a national police state where police and or military are forced to shoot and kill potentially their own family and friends to keep order, it simply won't happen. So in prevention of such revolt our government would simply roll in foriegn troops to police us.
Don't think so?
It's already begun in several states.
I could be wrong about them being Turkish though. But you get my point.
Actually it's quite different.
I know MANY officers. By many I mean, 30 or more from the Tri-State. I know their stories, I know their pasts. I've bounced in bars since the day I turned 18 years old and got to know many detail officers from all over. I have friends I grew up with who became cops. I myself almost went to get certified but I changed my mind.
I am also a Freemason.
So, in a nutshell, I am pretty sure I know enough about both subjects to share in my contentions without having to worry about someone like yourself trying to prove something at my expense. The difference between you and I is that I don't speak about things I know nothing about or merely heard elsewhere. I speak from direct experience.
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Originally posted by ElectricCrow
It wasn't a racial slur.What I'm saying is, if we ever end up under a national police state where police and or military are forced to shoot and kill potentially their own family and friends to keep order, it simply won't happen. So in prevention of such revolt our government would simply roll in foriegn troops to police us.
Don't think so?
It's already begun in several states.I could be wrong about them being Turkish though. But you get my point.
See, thats the force im talking about.
The larger and more advance our societies get, the bigger and tighter control and force there will be...
Originally posted by ElectricCrow
So, in a nutshell, I am pretty sure I know enough about both subjects to share in my contentions without having to worry about someone like yourself trying to prove something at my expense. The difference between you and I is that I don't speak about things I know nothing about or merely heard elsewhere. I speak from direct experience.😎
So in a nutshell, you think the difference between you and I is that you believe that you speak from experience and that I, " speak about things I know nothing about or merely heard elsewhere"?
Well tell me oh knowledgable one, how do you know what I do and do not know? Apparently you have already acertained that you know much more than I, therefore you have also come to the conclusion that you know what I know and find it lacking. How did you come to this great revalation?
Your view of the police is one dimensional and the following claim is hardly appropriate (if even true) as you cannot possibly know the detailed dealings and personal lives of over 30 (or more) police officers.
I know MANY officers. By many I mean, 30 or more from the Tri-State. I know their stories, I know their pasts. I've bounced in bars since the day I turned 18 years old and got to know many detail officers from all over. I have friends I grew up with who became cops. I myself almost went to get certified but I changed my mind.
my bro in law is a cop, his dads a retired cop, ive met plenty of their friends who are also cops. they are all good people, got into the force because they wanted to help people, and to my knowledge, most if not all had reletively decent childhoods free of ridicule (apart from the typical). so are you going to tell me that i'm lying or that they all just happen to fall into the minority of good cops? or maybe you should just understand that maybe you dont know everything on the matter. and even if you DID know all those cops and they were all pricks, does it not stand to reason that prick cops gravitate to and socialise with prick cops? think about that.
sorry ElectricCrow, but your words are just sweeping generalisations and completely irrational. there are some cops who are absolute bitter pricks, ill give you that. but they are a minority.
Originally posted by ElectricCrow
Quite frankly I think your a bit pompous and you assume far too much.Your obvious ego condition will always blind you to the truth. You have defended your knowledge without actually showing you have any to share.
Please, enlighten me.
I can't wait!
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Pot...Kettle...Black.
Before you start making rash generalizations on the knowledge of others in this forum and your perceptions as to their character flaws, perhaps you should hang around here just a little longer than trying to walk in and be the new stud on the KMC board.
I am not defending my knowledge, I am asking you as to how you have come to the conclusion that you are an authority on the subject of police behaviour merely by claiming to have hung around cops in a bar or known a few, yet discount whatever others say without any clue as to their knowledge or background whatsoever?
The fact that you made the following statement:
The difference between you and I is that I don't speak about things I know nothing about or merely heard elsewhere. I speak from direct experience.
and then had the nerve to say
Quite frankly I think your a bit pompous and you assume far too much.
Makes you quite a joke.
I am stating my opinions based on my direct experience. I am not speaking for all officers. I too know many good cops, but I also know many good cops that don't parade around revealing all of their skeletons.
As for Kharmadog,
you don't come into my thread offering discussion. You come in with a head larger than the forums allowed file size and begin spewing your nonsense without actually offering anything to the thread. You are the kind of guy that likes to hear yourself talk and I can see that plain as day in how you are in the few posts I've read from you.
I've offered you opportunities to share your vast knowledge yet you simply go further into your ploy.
Those who know little tend to display their ignorance through personal insults and sarcasm. It goes only so far. I'm guessing you are a Republican..lol
You point out things I've said to you as though I don't know what I'm talking about, yet I'm still waiting for you to show that I'm wrong about you...
I have a feeling you will come back with more nasty posts full of words without actually having said anything. You are a dime a dozen.
Originally posted by ElectricCrow
I am stating my opinions based on my direct experience. I am not speaking for all officers. I too know many good cops, but I also know many good cops that don't parade around revealing all of their skeletons.As for Kharmadog,
you don't come into my thread offering discussion. You come in with a head larger than the forums allowed file size and begin spewing your nonsense without actually offering anything to the thread. You are the kind of guy that likes to hear yourself talk and I can see that plain as day in how you are in the few posts I've read from you.I've offered you opportunities to share your vast knowledge yet you simply go further into your ploy.
Those who know little tend to display their ignorance through personal insults and sarcasm. It goes only so far. I'm guessing you are a Republican..lol
You point out things I've said to you as though I don't know what I'm talking about, yet I'm still waiting for you to show that I'm wrong about you...
I have a feeling you will come back with more nasty posts full of words without actually having said anything. You are a dime a dozen.
Before you go off and make more rash generalizations first a mod told you to quit it ( but I fear you ego won't have any of that).
Second, before you ascertain what my character, views, knowledge and political affiliations are, do a little research regarding my posting history on various subjects and learn something for although I can be quite a smartass some people think I actually do contribute to this board in an intelligent manner.
Finally, when you make a statement and are challenged on it, it is up to you to defend it, not me to continually defend why I am challenging what you said. I started by saying that you defended one group from rash generalizations then made rash generalizations about another group. You continued to make generalizations about me. But please let the attack continue as I am sure that your efforts will result in a banning and a quick stay here at KMC.