Dooku threw Asajj around with ease the first time he fought her so all he has to do is throw her aside, then he takes care of Luminara who is a Soresu user and I don't think she is better than Kenobi at using Soresu and we all saw what happened each time Kenobi tried to fight Dooku so I have a feeling Dooku would honestly take both of them with relative ease and ONLY relative ease.
Dooku threw Asajj around with ease the first time he fought her so all he has to do is throw her aside, then he takes care of Luminara who is a Soresu user and I don't think she is better than Kenobi at using Soresu and we all saw what happened each time Kenobi tried to fight Dooku so I have a feeling Dooku would honestly take both of them with relative ease and ONLY relative ease.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Your right. I was wrong. I forgot how easily Dooku beat Obi-Wan, who was a stronger Soresu Master than Luminara, well fending off Anakin, who's much stronger than Asajj. However, about how easily Dooku threw Asajj around the first time he fought her, well, yes, he could do that again, but if this is Asajj from Dark Rendezvous or Obsession, well, she'd be a little more of a challenge then.
What makes you think ROTS Dooku wouldn't be more of a challenge?
I don't see it changing much. Even if the three were too much for him in Lightsaber combat, his mastery of the Force would prevail.
Basically, they'd either all be shocked across the room or thrown around the room like ragdolls. We all saw what happened with Anakin and Kenobi. Dooku kicked Anakin into a wall and he didn't get up after Kenobi was choked (While he kicked Anakin) and then thrown under a large Balcony and then crushed.
What makes you think ROTS Dooku wouldn't be more of a challenge?
Hm. Sorgo does bring up a good point. Let's up the stakes: Asajj, Luminara and Obi-wan Kenobi.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Hmm... well he's older and thus would fatigue more quickly. He didn't fight alot but probably fought enough to keep from getting much, if any, weaker, though. I say they are equal.
Originally posted by Sorgo
[B]Hmm... well he's older and thus would fatigue more quickly. He didn't fight alot but probably fought enough to keep from getting much, if any, weaker, though. I say they are equal.Hahaha! Have you read the ROTS Script? Kenobi and Anakin were growing tired, whereas Dooku wasn't even started. [/B]
And at any rate, I never said Dooku fatigued faster than Obi-Wan and Anakin just that generally the older you are the more quickly you fatigue.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Your right. I was wrong. I forgot how easily Dooku beat Obi-Wan, who was a stronger Soresu Master than Luminara, well fending off Anakin, who's much stronger than Asajj. However, about how easily Dooku threw Asajj around the first time he fought her, well, yes, he could do that again, but if this is Asajj from Dark Rendezvous or Obsession, well, she'd be a little more of a challenge then.
I read your previous posts about proof and such.
Proove that Asajj from either Novelisations may be more powerful.
Show me it, as you wanted me to show you the lines from the script.
By the way: Here are the lines from the script.
As the battle proceeds, OBI-WAN and COUNT DOOKU are tired. ANAKIN is stronger as he becomes angry. ANAKIN continues to drive the attack on DOOKU. COUNT DOOKU throws OBI-WAN back using the Force.
I think i'll just wait here for you to show me where it says Asajj would be more of a challenge against Dooku.
For the record, Dooku already schooled Ventress and Ventress was Dooku's B*tch.
Proove that Asajj from either Novelisations may be more powerful.
As the battle proceeds, OBI-WAN and COUNT DOOKU are tired. ANAKIN is stronger as he becomes angry. ANAKIN continues to drive the attack on DOOKU. COUNT DOOKU throws OBI-WAN back using the Force.
For the record, Dooku already schooled Ventress and Ventress was Dooku's B*tch.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Um, when she first joins Dooku she loses to Padawan Anakin. In Dark Rendezvous she beats J'ai Maruk. In Cestus deception she beats Kit Fisto. It's clear that she got stronger during the War.:ast time you said 'Kenobi and Anakin were growing tired, whereas Dooku wasn't even started.' here it says Obi-Wan and Dooku, the two older men, were tired and Anakin, the youngest man, wasn't.
Hey, I never said she'd win or even do good. Just stated that she'd be a better match for him later in the war than she was when they first faught. Sheesh.
Kit Fisto? What is so special about Fisto? Have you ever seen him in actual action? Besides a Cartoon where Jedi can jump over mountains and ravage entire armies within a few minutes? Or is he good because he blocked two hits from Sidious and then died?
Ah. I misread the Quote.
Anakin was also getting stronger and not tired because of his Darkened Energies.
The only reason he honestly defeated Dooku and Ventress was within the fact he had to give into his Hate and Anger.
He could never defeat them as Jedi because he was never a Good enough Jedi. Or maybe he just wasn't for the Jedi.
No so much. Asajj would still get thrown around. Dooku most likely grew alot stronger from his time as well. I am sure he didn't sit around and do... Zero.
Kit Fisto? What is so special about Fisto? Have you ever seen him in actual action? Besides a Cartoon where Jedi can jump over mountains and ravage entire armies within a few minutes? Or is he good because he blocked two hits from Sidious and then died?
Anakin was also getting stronger and not tired because of his Darkened Energies.
The only reason he honestly defeated Dooku and Ventress was within the fact he had to give into his Hate and Anger.
He could never defeat them as Jedi because he was never a Good enough Jedi. Or maybe he just wasn't for the Jedi.
No so much. Asajj would still get thrown around. Dooku most likely grew alot stronger from his time as well. I am sure he didn't sit around and do... Zero.
Did you read The Cestus Deception?
You're mentioning Books again. Remember what Lucas said about Books? Authors play favoritism. Things contradict the Movies.
And TCD is the ONE Star Wars book I own.
Still, Dooku wasusing/could have used the Dark Side too.
Well, not really. I mean he did throw them around like Rag dolls but he wasn't honestly Mad about anything. Anakin just saw his Master get crushed and Dooku was taunting him to use the Dark side. PLUS, Anakin is younger and more vulnerable to persuasion, as we say Palpatine do throughout the entire damn movie.
Hmm... Dooku, yeah, Asajj, probably but even before using the Dark Side he and Asajj were pretty much tied.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.... Dooku and Asajj are TIED? Or Anakin and Asajj?
I disagree. In his first duel with Asjj it was extremely close and could have gone either way.
No. Anakin was going nowhere until he gave into his Rage.
He fought Yoda, fought Sora Bulq and Tholme, practiced with Grievous, Quinlan and, presumably, his other Dark Jedi. So no, he didn't do zero.
Uh... He TRAINED Sora Bulq. He did practice with Quinlan and Grevious but he TRAINED them both. He TRAINED Sev'rance Tann. He TRAINED Asajj Ventress. I can imagine he practiced with each one and also picked up their techniques.