Eighth-Grader With Gun Shot by SWAT Team

Originally posted by Bardock42
On the one hand the kid didn't even suffer, he got what he wanted. On teh other his behaviour asked for that to happen. If I had any compassion at all, then surely not for the dumbass kid but for the cop who was forced to shoot the idiot.

100% correct and precise.

That cop has to live forever with the fact that he killed a kid just because some idiot brought a gun to school. Real or fake, I wouldn't be one sticking around to find out.

I didn't hear the kid shouting out that it was fake. This is child worship, plain and simple.

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Yes, I know AC, and thank you for managing to remain on the topic at hand, something which Snoopbert cant seem to do. He's bound and determined to rehash the parenting argument.
You are missing the point that I meant regarding the bloodlust statement. I myself felt the police acted in the way that they had to. They had no choice. What so offended me, was the lack of seeing that the entire situation was such a tragic waste while they were chanting "the kid got what he deserved" that ticked me off.

I also hate it when people come in on the last page and think they can comment. However, it is a possibility that they entered this thread, read the story and still thought he deserved what he got. Which he did didn't he? To be fair and realistic.

If it was an older man I seriously doubt there'd be any problem.

-AC

Originally posted by §cooter
Didn't you feel bad about how your son turned out? The one you claimed you were afraid to let in your own house 😱 Zing! Yahtzee!

Originally posted by Syren
This sort of comment is exactly the reason I defended JP in the first place. You're quite obviously incapable of holding a mature discussion without resorting to personal insults as a defence mechanism for your warped opinions.

Quite sad.

Nice job. You've managed to make a personal insult, but mask it with slightly larger words.

Originally posted by Bardock42
C'mon that was not necessary. That'S just to hurt her, now.

Hmm for some reason AC manages to stay on topic while all hell brakes lose...now that'S a remarkable skill.

Originally posted by §cooter
Of course it wasn't nessecary. Was it nessecary we posted about 2 pages worth of fluff based on a single sentence? Nope.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Hmm for some reason AC manages to stay on topic while all hell brakes lose...now that'S a remarkable skill.

What can I say, I'm the man. All semi-jokes aside though, Scooter, you seemingly have a long standing grudge with JP. I don't know why or what it's about but I'd prefer you kept this on topic, because it's a good topic.

There's no need to get personal. I don't want to hear excuses, if you dislike her then PM her. Don't trash the threads. Same applies to everyone else.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
What can I say, I'm the man. All semi-jokes aside though, Scooter, you seemingly have a long standing grudge with JP. I don't know why or what it's about but I'd prefer you kept this on topic, because it's a good topic.

There's no need to get personal. I don't want to hear excuses, if you dislike her then PM her. Don't trash the threads. Same applies to everyone else.

-AC

Originally posted by §cooter
Was her comments about wishing bad things upon all of those that say he deserved what he got nessecary?

*sigh* I'm going to type really slow for you OK? You were on the receiving end of my comments because you posted that sentence WITHOUT posting anything else that resembled a human being that is capable of a shred of compassion. UNDERSTAND NOW?

AC, in all honesty you are probably right, had it been an adult I don't think my reaction would have been so strong. I see such a ridiculous waste when someone so young has their life cut short for any reason, even if it was their own doing.

Well then, back to child worshipping. I think what AC said is indeed right. there is only so much fuss aboot it because it was a kid. And that's not justified. Why should it be any different idf it was a 30 year old...it would still be the same thing, jsut with much less proble for the ones involved afterwards.

If you value life you should value it equally through all ages at mourn it's loss equally so.

Life was lost either way. Nothing is saying he wouldn't have died at 20 of an OD or plane crash. He acted idiotically and lost his life, that's the price you pay. He obviously didn't value his life much, why should you?

-AC

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess

AC, in all honesty you are probably right, had it been an adult I don't think my reaction would have been so strong. I see such a ridiculous waste when someone so young has their life cut short for any reason, even if it was their own doing.

25 year olds still have a lot of life to live too. And when does it change? When is it acceptable that someone gets shot, and when is it not.

I understand that you as a mother probably have strong feelings to it, but just the way it was portrayed it sounds like the Kid, was very much aware that this would indeed happen.

Dude what IS it with you? This isnt about "child worshipping". This is about an individual who has now had what could have been a full and promising life cut short by their own doing. THAT IS SAD. Hello? Do you not SEE that? And yes it would have been sad had the guy been 30. But at the age of 30, you've had a bit more time to grow, experience life and learn to not make such stupid decisions as this kid did.

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Dude what IS it with you? This isnt about "child worshipping". This is about an individual who has now had what could have been a full and promising life cut short by their own doing. THAT IS SAD. Hello? Do you not SEE that?

Well that'd be my point Bardock. I don't know if you guys are just really, REALLY desensitized or what, but this not seeing the "sadness" of this situation is callous in my opinion.

Of course it's child worshipping, you said yourself that it's "worse" because he was young.

Your rationale is flawed. "This is about an individual who has now had what could have been a full and promising life cut short by their own doing."

Exactly. First, it was their own doing, he's an idiot and he clearly didn't value his life much to throw it away like that. I won't mourn him because he doesn't deserve it. He didn't give a shit, why should we? Secondly, "COULD have been a full and promising life...". Anyone born has that possibility and there are possibilities to die around every corner. I could go out today and get run over.

Someone who dies in an accident is fair enough if they had absolutely no way of preventing it. I don't mourn the loss but I can see why it would be sad. A guy more or less asking for it at 15 brought it all on himself.

He brought it on HIMSELF. Hello? Do you not SEE that? The fact that he wasn't 30 plus is clouding your judgement. The fact that he was infact 15, is why you're taking this so seriously. He was asking for it.

-AC

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Well that'd be my point Bardock. I don't know if you guys are just really, REALLY desensitized or what, but this not seeing the "sadness" of this situation is callous in my opinion.

You have to understand that compassion is not an absolute concept.

I don't feel any sadness for that boy at all...he's an idiot, he deserved to die, he wanted to die.

I don't feel any sadness for the officer either....but just cause I don't know him, I don't care for him, it's not my problem. He, in the end, is the more tragic figure of the two.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

He brought it on HIMSELF. Hello? Do you not SEE that? The fact that he wasn't 30 plus is clouding your judgement. The fact that he was infact 15, is why you're taking this so seriously. He was asking for it.

-AC

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
I myself felt the police acted in the way that they had to. They had no choice.

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Exactly.

Desensitisation has nothing to do with it. It's a matter of realising what happened. A guy who wanted to die, didn't care for his own life or others around him, put himself in a situation where he could have been killed at his own free will and he got his wish granted. If he didn't REALLY want to die then he should have thought about that.

There's no defense of this kid.

-AC

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
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