Darth Vader versus Asajj Ventress

Setting is in the Cloud City. Who wins?

I'm guessing OT Vader. Well, he has the physical power to beat her down, especially since she uses to blades. I think he'll be fast enough to blcok her attacks for long enough to kill her. Vader wins.

I don't think he's fast enough to contend with her, really. She could put up a fight for him when he was in prime form.

I don't know. I've been rewatching the OT fights and they move as fast as the PT guys a lot. I think Asajj's best chance is to try and get in fast and take him out quick, it a long fight, he'll will because he doesn't tire(at least I don't think he does, being a machine and all.)

I say Vader, though only just. As far as we know Asajj survived ROTS. She wants to get away from the war but now it's over and if Darth Sidious approached her and said he'd make her his apprentice if she beated Vader in a duel I'm sure she'd have been honored. But Sidious didn't approach her? Why? Cause Vader must be stronger.

Sidious probably thought she was dead, seeing as almost everyone else did.

Originally posted by darthsith19
I say Vader, though only just. As far as we know Asajj survived ROTS. She wants to get away from the war but now it's over and if Darth Sidious approached her and said he'd make her his apprentice if she beated Vader in a duel I'm sure she'd have been honored. But Sidious didn't approach her? Why? Cause Vader must be stronger.

He didn't approach her cause:
1) He didn't know where she is, and thought she was dead.
2) He didn't anticipate vader gettin' deep fried

Back on topic though; Asajj would take this if it was suited vader, cause Vader is about agile as C-3PO. He also wouldn't be able to handle her double sabers. He had a hard time with her when he fought her just before ROTS, and suited vader is much weaker than ROTS Anakin.

Why does everyone think OT characters are so slow? They move rather fast, actually. Not as flashy as PT characters, but they can move their sabers as fast as OT characters.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Why does everyone think OT characters are so slow? They move rather fast, actually. Not as flashy as PT characters, but they can move their sabers as fast as OT characters.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I don't know. I've been rewatching the OT fights and they move as fast as the PT guys a lot. I think Asajj's best chance is to try and get in fast and take him out quick, it a long fight, he'll will because he doesn't tire(at least I don't think he does, being a machine and all.)

I just rewatched the whole OT and I still think that Asajj can tool Vader or Luke. Their speed isn't neccessarily comparable.

Originally posted by calvin44
I meant he is slow cause is is 1/2 machine; it's like medieval knights in their armor.

Who could probably take a much faster Samurai. Even if Asajj get's in a hit, it won't necessarily kill him since Luke got a hit on him in ESB, but it was resisted by is armor. And there is the idea that Vader is just like GG, except more advanced. GG was certainly fast enough to deal with Asajj.

Then again, I admit to beinning a major OT Luke and Vader fan.

1) He didn't know where she is, and thought she was dead.

I meant he is slow cause is is 1/2 machine; it's like medieval knights in their armor.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Okay, he may have thought she was dead but do we have proof on this? As for knowing where she was, he hunted down nearly all the Jedi. If he put a huge bounty on her head, asking for her alive...

They didn't hunt many down, most were killed during the first minute or two of the Purge. She wouldn't be the first to escape either.

Originally posted by darthsith19
So the fastest combatants are the strongest? So then Master Obi-Wan pwns all? No, hell no, Mace eidn't move than fast in ROTS either but he's still good.

Agreed. Power helps, especially against people who only have one hand on each saber.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Then again, I admit to beinning a major OT Luke and Vader fan.

They didn't hunt many down, most were killed during the first minute or two of the Purge. She wouldn't be the first to escape either.

Originally posted by darthsith19
So the fastest combatants are the strongest? So then Master Obi-Wan pwns all? No, hell no, Mace eidn't move than fast in ROTS either but he's still good.

Vader wouldn't be fast enough to block her attacks.

Here's the response: Yes, he can!

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Originally posted by darthsith19
Not me. I like Luke and Vader no better than I like Asajj.

But they did hunt some down, I'd guess at least a hundred. Anyways, Sidious is the Empire. he has lots of contacts. Jabba put a 250 thousand price on Solo's head and it was enough that, according to Greedo, every Bounty Hunter in the galaxy is looking for him. What was the price on the Devorian than Boba captured before retiring? Cause I know it was the largest bounty in the galaxy. Shadows of the Empire states than Vader's fortune's so but one could spend their whole life digging in it and never reach the bottom. It's only logical to assume Sidious's is at least as big. If he out, say, a 50 million credit bounty on Asajj alive she'd be found.

Originally posted by Dark Aristokrat
Here's the response: Yes, he can!

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Let me make this case SIMPLE.

Asajj has contended with Obi-Wan, Kit Fisto and Anakin numerous times. She has slain several jedi masters, a few of which weren't slouches in combat (Dark Rendezvoous). She is said on the Starwars.com databank as perfecting the two bladed style. She was a student of Dooku and a very cunning and deadly opponent.

Contrast this with limited mobility OT Vader, who cannot prevent Luke Skywalker from getting swift hits on him and who has not fought a dangerous opponent on Asajj's level in years. Vader suffers from decreased force powers, a limited saber style, and no real offensive powers above her own.

I find this pretty easily in Asajj's favor.

What we are saying is, Vader has arthritis.