Is Classism the new Racism?

Originally posted by Bardock42
The first thing could be taken very wrong.

And I didn't get your example, you should clarify it a bit.

The first thing could be taken as wrong? Listen, if you think racism will end, your in the wrong. People will always be ignorant, it's an imprinted neurological device humans are born with. Not knowing. There will never be no such thing as global racial acceptance, ever. Unless everyone merges into one race which is even more unlikely.

And what didn't you get about my example..?

It was cut and dry. At most Department stores employees look at people who look less affluent regardless of race, as suspect. Doesn't matter if your black or white, brown, yellow, or martian green. Yet that same regular looking person may have enough money on her to buy the most expensive outfit in there. But because of Classism, An employee would start hounding, making the potential customer uncomfortable and dubious, maybe says something and the client then leaves. Both lose. The employee loses a customer that was about to buy the most luxurious dress and the client goes home with her tail between her legs. it happens all cause of ignorance.

I see that type of thing more than I see racism..I see it in many other situations too. And it's not like I look for these situations, they're so blatant that it's hard to miss.

My statement was jsut because people might take it as "There ill always be racis, at least as long as I am around" ...but maybe they don't...I just found it funny...

Well to your example..I can't say I experienced it, then again i guess I am more of the middle class...and it might not be as bad in my country....

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
Well I'm afraid my physic powers aren't that good so I have to rely on appearances.

Also what you just said means that "classism" can't possibly be an issue.

It's not about being psychic thats what I mean, ignorance. Relying on appearances. Have you ever heard of "looks can be deceiving" and don't "trust your eyes, they can trick you."?

Instead of assuming, why not find out who's actually the richer of the two first, then make you determinations at least. I tell my employees all the time not to prejudge cause it's bad for business. When you prejudge you make it personal. And business becomes personal that when you lose your shirt.

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
Well I'm afraid my physic powers aren't that good so I have to rely on appearances.

What are Physic Powers? Did the ghost of Newton bestow these upon you. Newton must be a bit like the Wizard Shazam then 😕 Cool 🙂

Racism and the whole concept of races was created to distract people from class desparity. In America, classisim is the root of all evil. The upper classes run everything and have more access to politics, healthcare, and anything else. They often don't pay their fair share of taxes (or don't pay them at all) and use racism, supposed moral superiority, and the entertainment/infotainment/iconoclast industry to distract people from the real problems of society. Classism is the problem that fuels all others in the US

We also have a fear of any kind of communitarianism. Basically, social safety nets and affordable living/healthcare=socialism. massive government subsidies and bailouts=good market strategy in america.

Is classicism the "NEW" racism? I would hardly consider it to be "new", as poor people have suffered from a distinct lack of rights for thousands of years. Serfs, peasants, slaves... theirs was never a fantastic existence. Even into the mid-nineteenth century, people without a set amount of property were unable to vote or hold office in democratic systems. Necessarily, the poor have always been prevented from receiving higher levels of education and to the present day the best indicator of whether or not someone will enter law school or medical school is not their IQ or grades, but their finances. These issues tend to amount to a whole lot more than some inconsequential bull like waiters being more likely to suck up to someone with more cash on him.

New nothing... class differences have always kept people down. The issues associated with class and race aren't necessarily separate though. The fact that poverty is prevalent among some racial groups means that issues of class and race are often necessarily intertwined.

Originally posted by Zarathustra
Is classicism the "NEW" racism? I would hardly consider it to be "new", as poor people have suffered from a distinct lack of rights for thousands of years. Serfs, peasants, slaves... theirs was never a fantastic existence. Even into the mid-nineteenth century, people without a set amount of property were unable to vote or hold office in democratic systems. Necessarily, the poor have always been prevented from receiving higher levels of education and to the present day the best indicator of whether or not someone will enter law school or medical school is not their IQ or grades, but their finances. These issues tend to amount to a whole lot more than some inconsequential bull like waiters being more likely to suck up to someone with more cash on him.

New nothing... class differences have always kept people down. The issues associated with class and race aren't necessarily separate though. The fact that poverty is prevalent among some racial groups means that issues of class and race are often necessarily intertwined.

You're argument is flat. And irrelevant.

The question is, "Is Classism the new Racism?" not "Is Classism new?" You're answering the latter.

Of course classism has been around for eons, who doesn't know that, what I wanna know is if anybody besides me has seen a increase classist attitudes and behaviors among people in our society more often than they see racial ones today.

You're on another scale.

So using the term "new racism" to describe something doesn't indicate that it is, as the adjective indicates, "new"? Are you going to stick with that answer?

the question is odd to begin with since racism has always been a tool or misdirection of classism